Socialism Is The Future

Their whole narrative is oppressor vs oppressed. They see all black people as the oppressed, and all law enforcement and caucasians as oppressors.

Marxism was all about destroying the nuclear family, and replacing it with the community. Even on the BLM website, it says

Marxist rhetoric commonly states "it takes a village to raise a child" not so much the parents themselves. One of the goals of communism was to remove children from the guidance of their parents, and to be raised by the government (aka the village).

It's right here in the website https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/

They call themselves and their allies "comrades"

Things that make you go Hmmmm


Keep denying all you want, Tish. It's getting harder and harder to take a damn thing you say seriously anymore

 

Beach

As said there are many forms of ‘socialism’ and there have plenty of places that the US has hailed as been anti-communists and capitalist that have been bloody handed authoritarian regimes and dictatorships. I’ve heard Americans call some countries socialist that have high score on the right wing Cato Institute’s freedom index than the US. I had someone tell me that until the UK got rid of the ‘socialist’ NHS then it wouldn’t be a ‘free’ country.

LOL and you clearly don’t know enough lefties to think they all think the same – to paraphrase an old joke put 5 socialists in a room and you’ll be 6 opinions.

Also socialism didn’t begin with Marx he was just a champion of a particular type of socialism and even then it has to be remembered that socialism was a branch of anarchist thinking. In fact most people forget that Marx’s communism was meant to be a stepping stone to Anarchy as under communism the state and old ideas of governance were meant to ‘wither away’.


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Then the post descends in to the same old same old….more complaints, more blame more insults.

I ask again have you the ability to be positive, yes we all get it you don’t like socialism or anything you think smells of it - OK noted - but what has your philosophy in opposition got to contribute?[/quote]

 

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Are you saying you don’t think there are racial problems within the US?

Just after it says –“We make our spaces family-friendly and enable parents to fully participate with their children.”

Oh big scary anti-family movement that is trying to be family friendly – oh how terribly Marxist of them LOL

Oh you are a hoot - "it takes a village to raise a child" – is to you a Marxist saying? Really?

Well I got this from wiki

"it takes a village to raise a child" - Is an African proverb that means that an entire community of people must interact with children for those children to experience and grow in a safe and healthy environment. The villagers look out for the children. This does not mean an entire village is responsible for raising a child or the children of a crowd.

Have you ever had children, brought one up?

 

Immaterial, incompetent and irrelevant--for reasons previously explained. Whaddabout ammon Bundy and the two arsonists Trump released after they participated in the occupation of the wildlife reserve? What about the KKK? They're obviously rightwingers. It would be as logical (illogical) to say:Therefore capitalism is a terrible system.

 

Whether or not BLM or Ms. Rosenberg are Marxist no gooders is irrrelevant. As you say, "socialism refers to a broad range of theoretical and historical social economic systems and has also been used to describe themselves and their goals". By showing that one particular group you dislike is Socialist (which you haven't), you can't logically advance an understanding of the merits or demerits of Socialism.

 

Prove it. Socialism is about class. BLM seems to be about race. Have they called for nationalization of any industries yet., or making common cause with the proletariat?

 

do you think so?

I doubt it. I think I saw a documentary about their founder; an African American woman whose son had died I think. I doubt she has political background honestly and don't think she's a Marxist by any means. She might be into Malcom X or more likely Martin Luther King Jr., but probably not a whole lot. She has her momentum now. There might even be some money.

 

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I live in Canada and you think I don’t know leftists? Come on! we have very high taxes here, yet it is promoted as free, the liberals in this country are socialists, believe it or not, they are. What they have done and policies that are put in place, because of socialism caused taxes to rise and have sold off this country piece by piece to countries that are socialists. Like China, they did to China actually. Receiving funding from China for their campaign to win the election. They were literally declassified as an official party.

I have a question for you. Do you think obama was center left?

The left here in Canada has constantly told the people what center left is, when in fact it was far left. Obama did the same thing. Justin Trudeau also brought back the term Un-canadian. Telling the people what and how they are suppose to think. How they are suppose to behave. What we are suppose to be in favour of and those things, when the term un-canadian is used are for far left extremist views. Justin Trudeau even encouraged Canadians to march and riot with BLM by the way, who are far left.

who do you think has the greatest influence in news? Who do you think is highly promoted in left wing news sources? BLM is often the topic who are far left. They rear their ugly head at election time. See the thing is, yes black lives do matter, lives in General matter to me. I do agree with this, but I don’t agree with their tactics and don’t agree with their methods of operation. Dividing a country as they have through racial profiling themselves. So I do not support BLM. I won’t stand with that. If you do you are supporting far left socialist, communist, Marxist ideology and that being a driving factor in the government on the left. The Center line has shifted further left and people are blind to it.

as taxes rise, rarely do they decrease and government spending increases, but benefits of that are slowly taken away until you are left with a government having people work for food with housing providing and nothing more. Completely dependent on a government who has, as the left has gone in Canada, sold off crown corporations in order to finance their over spending and social programs. The more the left gives out, the harder it is to say, we are turning back the clock, they can’t. Left and right are dependant on it. Dependant on the government for their health and welfare.

They Left present a moderate platform, trying to get votes, but in reality they are not,

 

some money? 33 million donated recently. They state on their website that they are marxists. The also stated that they were bla previously

 

Beach

Ranting like that just makes my point again – there is nothing constructive, no solutions just more complaints, more blame, more accusations

I say again -we get it - you don’t like socialism or anything you think smells of it - OK noted - but what has your philosophy in opposition got to contribute?

What is you vision of a better way that will lead people to a better future?

 

So, some of the BLM are Marxists - good for them, but what turns on it as far as you're concerned ??? - the fact that they are means we are one step closer to a socialist Republic !!!

 

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Speaking of OMG, That's the most ill-informed opinion I've heard in ages! Trump shakes his head and sometimes speaks out against the divisive tactics of the left. Anyone who's pulled their heads out of the cable news swampy mire to look around and chew on all the different takes on events can't help but realize the division impetus is real but sure ain't coming from Trump or Republicans! Yeah, they might not want to admit they've been so wrong for so long, I get that, it's embarrassing. But if they really want unity and mutual respect, they're gonna walk away from the divisive hypocritical left, like so many of us have.

Anyone not hearing/reading news sources from both the left and the right leaning sources is informationally-challenged.

 

Is that right? Hmmm... FYI:

"In 2016, the top 50 percent of all taxpayers paid 97 percent of all individual income taxes, while the bottom 50 percent paid the remaining 3 percent.

The top 1 percent paid a greater share of individual income taxes (37.3 percent) than the bottom 90 percent combined (30.5 percent)."

 

trud

So do you believe in trickle down economics or what?

Seems like a pritty simple question.

Your premise seemed to imply that wealth trickles down so that is why i asked the question if that is not what you meant what did you mean?

Are you willing to debate or not if not can you please not post in Politics.

 

Trud

But what has your philosophy in opposition to left wing ideas got to contribute?

What is your vision of a better way that will lead people to a better future?

 

Can people please read the sticky in the Politic forum

A polite notice

And the Politics forum Guidelines

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The second of which states very clearly -

As often stated this is not a bulletin board it is a place to debate politics. [my bold]

The Politics forum has long been different than the other forums in the Hip universe with its own rules and even at times restrictions (at one time you needed to have posted 100 posts in other forums before been allowed to post in Politics)

It has also allowed a certain amount of leeway - there is a realisation that debates can be heated and a blind eye can be given BUT too often these days there are those coming to the forum that have no intention of entering into debate and others whose sole purpose seems to be to snipe at those that do and disrupt those that are taking place.

If people genuinely wish to debate they are welcome but if not and only post in Politics to spread lies and culture war propaganda they are not welcome and their posts may be deleted and if they persist in trying to be disruptive then other measures might need to be taken.

 

Pritty, pritty, double pritty!

I don't know what that is. And you still haven't told me. But let me just say this. I just now took a piss, while replying, and watched as it trickled down the slope. So there's that.

Let me eat by the sweat of my brow, and let no man take from me what I've rightfully gained.

 

Trud

So you are so ignorant of politics that you have never heard about trickle down economics - why not go and look it up?

I always find it strange that some types of right wingers imply that others are lazy and are not willing to put in the work but when it comes to it they are the ones that are too lazy to put in the effort.

How does a bady gain 'by the sweat of its brow' the advantage of been born into advantage?

 

I see. Black is white, down is up, Hitler loved Jews, and reality is whatever you want it to be. Next you'll be telling us Trump's trim, has a nice tan and doesn't wear dayglow. A purusal of his daily tweets will quickly put your assertion to rest, unless you think they're all done by the Democrats to make him look bad.