Men and women being “equal”

Discussion in 'Democracy' started by WomenPower, Mar 26, 2021.

  1. Running Horse

    Running Horse A Buddha in hiding from himself

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    Was sarcasm, you know, that lowest form of wit.

    In all seriousness though we, in U.S.A. for sure tho I suspect it's a global phenomenon, are a country of talkers and idiot man-children who canna actually achieve any form of genuine lasting peace let alone the fabled utopia. We'd rather slaughter any who disagree with idiot remarks, violent attacks both physically and mentally, and vile acts that serve only to remind me that such fanciful dreams canna ever come to fruition.
     
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  2. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Horse

    WOW ok sorry you are so pessimistic that you have so clearly have just given up - that's sad.

    What is better just giving up and not caring about others or trying to work toward making things better?
     
  3. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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  4. Running Horse

    Running Horse A Buddha in hiding from himself

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    Seeing the truth of the climate of this age isn't pessimism it's simple acknowledgement of the sickness. Our current political and socioeconomic climate is only one more symptom of the underlying cancer at work in the soul of humanity. I know there is a cure and the doctor to administer it but first gotta acknowledge and address the sickness not the symptoms
     
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  5. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    Yes, the problem must be identified and defined prior to engineering a potentially effective solution.

    The cure would be everyone being honest with their words and deeds, treating everyone with love, and always doing their best to pull their own weight and then some.

    Pretty simple, eh. Except that it's never been able to happen in the history of the world. Human motivation and behaviour always gets in the way.

    And there's no evidence or indication it could ever happen - save for altering people's brains somehow. Maybe they'll come up with some kind of surgery or chemical/dna altering strategy or a microchip implanted... Mandatory of course. Under a one world government because otherwise the leaders of different countries would be fighting with each other, more than eager to sacrifice their own people to get their own way. Yikes.
     
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  6. Balbus

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    Trudge

    What was the point of posting the video from this Bob the Militiaman or whatever when it doesn’t answer the questioned leveled at YOU or address the criticisms of YOUR views?

    It just seems to make it clear you haven’t a clue and are just some type of sad follower that can’t think for themselves so once again it highlights you laziness of thought and deed.

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    To repeat (again) you cannot have equality of opportunity in an unequal system - where people with the same potential (talent, intelligence and matching strengths) due to a unequal social system do not have equality of opportunity.

    Imagine a 100 metre race and two runners of equal potential - but you only place one runner at the 100 metre line while putting the other on the 300 metre line. There is no equality of opportunity in the race.

    I know some would argue that people are not all equal, some people have physical and mental advantages (or disadvantages), BUT the question then is how can someone gauge that in advance?

    So what you seem to be doing is gauging people on outcome.

    But that is a bit like standing at the finish line of the race described above and declaring that the runner that clearly had an advantage is a much better runner and more worthy athlete than the loser who was so clearly disadvantaged.

    Again that doesn’t seem reasonable or rational.

    Would it not be fairer to treat the two runners equally and allow each to begin on the 100 metre line? Is that giving the disadvantaged runner better treatment or fairer treatment?

    Social and economic disadvantage can be connected to many things sometimes it is connected to race and gender or other biases and prejudices sometimes not.

    The thing is that societies are artificial entities that can be built and managed to bring about certain outcomes if the desire is for a fairer and more equal society that is possible to bring about
     
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  7. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Horse

    So what is the cancer, what is the sickness?

    And what is the cure?

    Can you please explain and clarify?
     
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  8. Balbus

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    Trudge

    LOL so why not be honest and start debating honestly?

    It would be ‘pretty simple’ to answer questions and address the outstanding criticisms of your views - but you constantly refuse to do so

    In other words it is YOU who is part of the problem - it is YOU that isn’t been honest - it is YOU who is disrespectful - it is YOU who is behaving badly - it is YOU that refuses to pull your weight or put in any effort.

    As I've said before it has always amazed me that those who talk the loudest about working hard and putting in the effort who are the ones that turn out to be the laziest and most idle people around.
     
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  9. Running Horse

    Running Horse A Buddha in hiding from himself

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    This thread is not the right place to expound on such things.
     
  10. Balbus

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  11. soulcompromise

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    the way we are conditioned by media, tradition, our mores and folkways, and our very worldview in North American U.S.A. is festering with inequality in terms of race, gender, ethnicity, nationality, skin color, eye shape, ... I can think of more.

    And it's very very sad!

    All we have to do to overcome the inequality is become consciously aware of its prevalence and put it in the past! We need to instruct our youth - THIS is the problem; not only in their social interactions as children but as they enter college, in high school, and even in jr. high as we introduce them to the world let them know...

    Equality in the workplace is paramount!


    No longer can we allow our premonitions... our second-hand notion and our bizarre socially-derived misguided "instinct" to accept the familiar and reject the less common - to truly elevate only those who fit our notion of the status quo!


    We must overcome our need to perpetuate this falsehood that only the rich belong in a position of power, or rather that only the traits of rich & entitled ivy league males belong.

    We can place a proficient woman in every position that a proficient man can occupy with just as much confidence and wherewithal. :)




    And we're waking up to that notion now and I'm proud of it despite the kicking and screaming of those who wish to remain rooted in this old falsehood.
     
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  12. DarthDva

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    Sounds like a transphobic rant.

    Transwomen are not men.

    We need to institute a Shemale Supremacy (dictatorship) to keep TERFs like you in line. People like you are so backwards.

    Give power to the pengas.
    [​IMG]
     
  13. wrat1

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    Uh I posted no video , and what's sad is your personal attacks when you talk about debating honestly
     
  14. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    I had to crack up!!!

    Equality is not good enough, we want supremacy!

    Sometimes it seems like things really could get that ridiculous if left unchecked, though.
     
  15. DarthDva

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    The TERFs have to be put in their place.

    Song of conquering and subjugating the terfs:
     
  16. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    One way to handle the situation would be to simply have sports teams. No more men's and women's sports. Give everyone true equal opportunity to play.
     
  17. DarthDva

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    I vote in favor of this.
     
  18. Balbus

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    Sorry wrat1 that was trudge, honest mistake you are very similar in that you both don’t seem able to answer questions or address criticisms (it has now been corrected)
     
  19. Balbus

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    Ok to recap

    Not the original poster or anyone else has been able to explain in any rational or reasonable way why men and women should not be treated equitably in such things as pay or in law.

    Honestly if nobody has been able to come up with a coherent argument after 160 posts and 8 pages then I don’t think they are going to.

    So the answer would seem to be that women should be treated equitably in such things as pay or in law.
     
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  20. wrat1

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    Why would anyone care to debate honestly with you when you use slurs and personal attacks to further your points/agenda, by answering your questions/criticisms it gives them validity that they may or may not deserve
     

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