3.3 Million Year Old Stone Tools

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  1. Nerdanderthal

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    The history of the existence of humanity, or... our intelligent ancestors, keeps getting pushed back further and further as new (old) archaeological discoveries are unsurfaced.

    The recent finding of stone tools in Kenya predates our prior estimates of primitive technology by 700,000 years.

    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v521/n7552/full/nature14464.html

    How long until museums depicting man walking with dinosaurs are taken seriously? lol

    Investigation of the ancient past really is a sloppy business. We feel pressure to make confident proclamations about our path to modernity, but contradictions are consistently found; they just don't make it into mainstream Academia. A narrative has been established, and anything that undermines that narrative is repressed.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oGqPc6poS4
     
  2. Sleeping Caterpillar

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    I think time may be more cyclical than we think. Our current generation of intelligence has left a pretty big mark with satellites in space, nuculear radiation from bombs and factories. But in a world before the industrial revolution. Any civilization of that height, who's to say that an ice age or meteor or such couldn't wipe out all evidence of their existence?

    Older civilizations we know of today still astound our minds with their brilliance. Maybe there's even older civilizations lost to time
     
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    crustaceans build houses..
     
  5. Irminsul

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    48 mins???

    what you want me to do? quit my life?
     
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  6. BlackBillBlake

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    How so?
     
  7. Asmodean

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    It is a tricky 'business' because it is ancient.... hard to investigate. We only have the means to properly investigate the ancient past through a combi of archeology and technology relatively short. So it is very logical new insights that opposes older assumptions are subject to criticism.... all the time. Until new insights get verified they are perceived what they are: as possibilities. No dark conspiracy to keep any ultimate truth out of the mainstream ;) :p
     
  8. thedope

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    Dinosaurs extinct 65 million years. Stone tools from 3.3 million years. On the route to modernity mammal becomes man and dinosaur becomes bird. Seems we coexist now.

    I saw a hummingbird the other day in the early morning sun. It was gathering soft fluffy fibers from the pussy willow like catkin of a flowering willow tree. Presumably to line it's nest.
     
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  9. BlackBillBlake

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    With new finds, we develop new insights. But I wouldn't say 'sloppy' is an adjective I'd use to describe the way archaeologists go about their business.

    It's hard to find evidence from remote periods. Funding for such research is. I assume, limited. I think actually quite a few interesting new finds have come up over the last few years.
     
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    bead spitters. a bead spitter could spit japanese glass beads, if you were to take them back in time with you and show them to him.
     
  11. Tyrsonswood

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    I'm sure I still have some of those in the garage... I never get rid of tools.
     
  12. themnax

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    its not inconceivable that neaderthalers or even austropythacines could have been a bit smarter then most people today give them credit for. 3.3 million is not that much further back the 2.1, when compared to the rocks their toos were made out of, being 4.5 billion. of course modern humas are only a few tens of thousands. but even a lot of not even primate species make tools out of beating rocks together. not just using found items, but actually fashioning them by such methods as direct percussion.
     
  13. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Thankyou, i was going to say something cos it always gets under my skin, dinosaurs are still all around us today

    And some mammals use rocks, split rocks to kill things like fish or each other. Stone tools were around before homosapiens
     
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  14. AceK

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    Chimpanzees use stone tools, as well as other types of tools.
     

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