Youth of today. 2007

Discussion in 'U.K.' started by J0hn, Mar 18, 2007.

  1. Ber-Limey

    Ber-Limey Member

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    ....So, just any old parents then? No necessarily the parents of delinquents.
    You guys are very good a dishing out blame. Ya just don't see that it is societies fault as a whole. We all need to take more resposibility and not turn our backs when we see there is a problem and just say ' not mine, buddy, you deal'.
    What happened to care in the community? Looking out for others? We all need to pull together a bit more, step up and help. It is a bit late to say things like 'I blame everyone but me' What would happen if everyone felt like you? Nothing would get done.
     
  2. Joaquin

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    The grandparents! Grandparents I say!

    What's the question again?
     
  3. lithium

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    Howay, it's the chuckle brothers again... to me? to me? to you! to you!
     
  4. Ber-Limey

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    Gosh, how creative.
     
  5. lithium

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    Just what I was thinking...
     
  6. Ber-Limey

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    No, it's just what you were saying. If you posted all the asinine drivel that pops into your head you would be here all day.....alone.
    *winks and grins at you, silly man*
     
  7. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    I think if I did that I would be you...
     
  8. Ber-Limey

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    Touché , sweetiepie.
     
  9. Joaquin

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    Sweetiepié. Heehe, I like accents.
     
  10. paulfreespirit

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    theirs me thinking it was cannon and ball .............ROCK ON TOMMY:party:
     
  11. Ber-Limey

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    Yes yes, well done for getting the joke.
     
  12. feral

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  13. J0hn

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    meanwhile back on topic....


    I really miss the kids of yesterday, the 80's and 90's. I mean the worst they could have done is tied your hair around a lamp post and beat a few people up. Nowadays our kids have become mindless violent psychopaths. So, should they be tried as adults?

    We go back to the Bulger case, the killers only served four years in a juvinile slammer. The other four years were spent out in the community on a Mobility Programme. This programme enables young people in custody to get aquainted with the real world so when they are released, they are not scared half to death by the possibility of new things, technology etc. AN adult crime commited by a child has demonstrated a maturity and should therefore be tried and better yet sent to a proper slammer. Send them to Belmarsh and our kids will change over night. If the fear don't change them, the screws will. They have ways and means. Those truncheons are not novelty toys, and neither are the prison dogs who unlike police dogs are trained to kill anyone who tries to escape, seen as how the prison officer and authorities cannot carry guns unlike in Australia or America.
     
  14. mellowthyme

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    You're having a laugh?
     
  15. J0hn

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    Explain?
     
  16. lithium

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    I really don't think so, John is our resident loveable right-wing daily mail reader...
     
  17. mellowthyme

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    I idea that kids today are anymore violent overall is a bit crazy. You talk about the kids of the eighties and nineties being somehow less aggressive than now, its just not true. This was the time of the football firms and violence. You're isolating certain trends and have explained a tragic incident that does stand timeless in its horror as with the Bulger case. You're right it was a horrific crime and they must have been really disturbed to do such a thing. You're just picking up on the media and what its purpose is and how it reflects tastey and sensationalist media interests as in Charvers or youth crime. What about the 60's Brighton annual fight between the Mods and Rockers? That was given real coverage and a national headline being talk about the youth today and what should we do with them. Now it is looked upon as a good job against the establishment and has been celebrated in music and films.

    What about the youth of that day? They've kicked you and I out into the world have decided a rebelous instinct in young people is something unnatural and should be stamped out, marginalised instead of harboured, nutured and encouraged. If you' re not talking about a cultural difference but more about crime then I'd agree there seems to be a use of guns and I suppose knives like there has never been, murder seems to be reported a lot more than it ever did. This is to the point that some murders never get reported, showing how we are becoming desensitized to extreme violent crime; but this isn't a youth problem.
     
  18. FreeWind

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    Irt would be good if the youth trend was hippy again...... Then at least i would feel more normal


    But who wants to be normal?
     
  19. Harry Tuttle

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    If your child isn't cowering in the corner whimpering "please, what did I do wrong? Don't hit me again.... please...." when you get home from work, then you have failed as a parent.
     
  20. CrucifiedDreams

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    I really think kids are more violent today then before. Some days I feel quite on edge in my school. To say that I feel safe there, wouldn't really be right. We've had bomb threats, kids with knives, and at the beginning of the year, one kid beat the shit out of another kid with a lead pipe out front...We have cops on the school grounds at all times now, and that only puts me more on edge.This is part of the reason I don't go to parties anymore, could never get through the night without a fight, and now, it's not just going to be a good old fist fight. I've seen a couple knife fights and it's not what I want to be around.
    I don't think it's totally the parents fault, but I'm a believer that everything contributes, you can't blame one thing solely. I think society plays a big part, kids are being forgotten about. I don't know what the school systems are like there, but here, if you arn't top in your class, you're no one, you're told more subtly "If you make it to university, then you're somone." Kids who struggle, they get left behind. Though not possitve, I'm pretty sure we have more shit to deal with, we have to work harder to get anywhere, it's stressful and it's hard, and it doesn't surprise me that kids are acting out violently. Growing up in bad families, trying to integrate into society, having it not work out. Kids don't know how to express themselves, so they turn to things like violence to do it. I know a lot of my friends live on their own, having to work every hour they're not in school, that adds to the stress. Doing our best is no longer enough, we're expected to reach greatness and perfection, a lot of us, myself included, bend over backwards trying to get there, others turn to other means.

    Sorry kinda wavered there at the end.
     

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