were all waiting for something that wont happen unless we all join together...but how do we join together? ..i think all of us being here says something though...atleast we recognize theres a problem...isnt that the first step? we should, we should, we should, why dont we do? but what to do? it seems as if were at a plateau...
Because no one has any goals. I tried posting a thread about what our goals should be, what we ACTUALLY want to DO (besides generalizations like "change society"). No one hardly responded, and those that did weren't great responses. But a thread like this, just saying "hey lets do something" get's tons of "hell yeah's" ...but no ideas. We have to outline was is wrong (specific root causes, not symptomatic stuff like school shootings...because why are they shooting? Stuff like that). Then we have to decide what to do about it, and what we're specifically driving at. And of course we have to get together in serious groups. A lot of people go to protests (not enough, but still a lot), but when asked, often times they aren't really sure what they're protesting, or why. We need informed, driven people out there, gathering and acting.
Here are my goals 1.Try to save the enviroment 2.shut down Mega corperations 3.Break the stero-type that we all are durg using bums Well those are 3 I can think of
well with goals like that you cant get anywhere. you cant get rid of that stereotype because while we arent all bummed out, most of the druggie population is. megacorporations are inevitable, theonyl way you can get rid of them is restricting how good a person can run their business/corporation. and trhe environment is something that is already being lobbies for immensely
What would you have in place of mega corporations. How would you do this? How would you save the environment?
I found a site with goals!!! http://www.hiphappy.com/hippy_take_action/take_action.html Not all of the goals I agree with(Stop war on weed) but its a start...
I agree we really do need to get some goals. Thats just the first step.We need to reconize how we are going to impact/change the world. (if we are going to do so)
to spread awareness, essentially. freedom of oppinion, and the importance of developing your own oppinion and not just taking someone elses. place of humans in nature, and the importance and magnificence of nature. (without imposing muich on religious beliefs.. because then you wouldnt have any hold at all) reduction of inequal violence. mutual violence, where both parties desire to fight, should be allowed however, as long as all parties agree to the violence. reduction of technological use/shortcuts (a very hard one) to be conscious of the food you eat, and what you are eating. to use teaching by example instead of teaching by an information. a lot of this stuff has been touched on more in that website the evil jester put
WTF are we waiting for? Lets make our mark on society? (unfortunately most young hippies are far from it. Too many war mongers who think that its about getting high and listening to led zepplin claiming to be hippies.)
Exactly! Tell everyone you are here! make a fucking mark! I can't do it alone, its a fucking movement.
I'm SOOOOOO onboard for this one. We do need something to happen. Even if it's not like the 60's again. We need some kind of a revolution. I'm doing as much as i can living in a VERY small town in michigan. But hopefully I'll be moving to tennessee. there's more going on there. more chances for me (And other people) to get heard.
tecnology itself isn't the problem. the way tecnology is used and the kinds of tecnologies are used and the resaulting direction in which it evolves because people put trying to impress each other, which gratifies nothing, ahead of the real gratifications of creating and exploring, THAT is the problem. wind, solar, small scale hydro, small scale flanged wheel on steel rail, stone and steel constructrion, these are all proven and established tecnologies, which only policies, again motivated by a culture of trying to impress, have placed to some degree out of the reach, and perhapse out of even the immagination of a great many people. my point in mentioning that in this context is that no nation has any really legitimate excuse for massochuring civilian populations halfway arround the world to maintain a totaly gratuitous status quo. love is better then hate certainly, but the romantic fantacy of (any) idiological panacea isn't going to create a world in which people are enabled to live in a loving manor. formalize any social structure or system and you've created an opportunity for corruption. but people CAN get togater, without formalized hierarchies, to create and maintain environmentaly harmonious infrastructure when there aren't vested aggressive hierarchies to prevent them from doing so. so 'the cave' isn't the only alternative. but even if it were, i think a clear consciounse would be worth it. =^^= .../\...
We should just all get the word out now that we are moving to a hippy movement! One thing we really need though for a hippy movement, a key ingredient, is a draft, reason being is that my generation (the college ages and high school ages) is an apathetic generation that doesn't care what's going on in the world, and they will never do so until it's affecting them! Once they are having their lives interrupted and seeing people they know coming back in body bags then they will notice and help get onto our already planned movement!!
i hope this isn't the only way it can happen, but historicly, yes, that is the way it did. or a big part of it. certainly the biggest part of how it did. =^^= .../\...
this is a hard one. I don´t think a draft or anything like it is the way to put on a counterculture. i think that the whole draft thing was important for the spectacular growth of the hippymovement as well as it was important for the fall of the hippymovement. when people only do something to safe their own lives and they don´t mean it, it probably won´t be lasting very long. so real change will not occure. I guess our welfare is part of our evolution. we are at a breaking-point. if we can combine our welfare with living in harmony with our surroundings, the world will be more beautiful than ever before. to reach that we not only have to evolve on an intellectual level, but on an emotional and on social level as well. otherwise solutions won't work. we can see this today already. solutions are all around us, look on the net and you'll find them soon enough. unfortunatly, most of us don't believe in them or have other things on their mind and change progresses slowly.
any plans for jumpstarting hippyism? find and befriend all your local hippies? go with them down to the most conservative parts of town and play a game of hackey sack in the driveways? baby steps, people, baby steps..... FREE CONCERTS OF RANDOM TRIPPED-OUT LOCAL ROCK GROUPS IN THE PARK!!!! that is an example of focused hippy beauty, just thousands of hippies laying on the grass, some blowing bubbles, some dancing, all of them chilling to the music...
