Young Hippies

Discussion in 'The Future' started by jendi17, May 13, 2004.

  1. grim_rebel

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    No need to apologize man...

    Sigh... I suppose in some respects I am like you. I've set my mind on living in the forest for the rest of my life, meditating, cultivating, hunting, seeing the things that I eat, rather than having to go down to some uber-market and buying what has been slaughtered by the thousands... In some sense it is selfish, but I don't want anything to do with humanity. I would rather live my life as close to nature as possible until either someone moves me or I move myself.

    Then again, I see that as selfish and believe that it is my duty to help the world, if I know that help is needed. And it is. I don't know exactly how to do it, as i've realized that things are easier said than done. On the internet many talk the talk, but cannot walk it. Or fight it.

    I was thinking of joining the army, which I probably would, for experience and perhaps the chance to persuade some people there to fight for what is 'right'. Sigh... but we are just kids, the powers that be are too mighty for us. The only way would be to persuade kids without the powers knowing, it is hard to change the way adults think. It is hard to tell anyone that what they are living for is bad and that they're beliefs are wrong, not false. Everything is true and false.

    What we need is equilibrium. And to reach equilibrium we need sacrifice. You may ask why, and here it is:

    I have reason to believe that humans have surpassed their capacity to solidly support themselves. We have the illusion that at this rate, we can still live 'normally', but that is only because everything is interdependant on a multitude of other factors. One must get to the source of all troubles. And you said it. Money. Hence, to eliminate money you must eliminate capitalism or contemporary capitalism. I do believe that small social tribes can live a capitalistic-communist life, but i don't believe in a 'central government' to govern EVERYONE. That is wrong, no one should be governed. Everyone should co-exist in tolerance, dignity and honor, without passing judgement nor being judged, with access to needs and the abilities to forge wants from tools and the environment. I believe that a person should only want what he or she can make or find, unless of course we're talking about the opposite sex :).

    I think the only way that we can abolish government is to live in the assumption that there is no government. If we spread the word of, "hey, live like you want to!" and enough people follow it, then people will have the ability to live as they want. Sometimes the most simple answers can solve the most complicated questions... You don't want money, don't work for anyone else but yourself. Go live in the forest with me and we can work for each other ;). Does that not sound much better? To work for each other rather than FOR someone? I suppose working with each other and working for each other is the same thing... is it not?
     
  2. NatureFreak412

    NatureFreak412 Art of Balance

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    nicely said grim rebel and i back u 100% on that
     
  3. grim_rebel

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    Thanks NatureFreak,

    So I suppose, a question of change ultimately stands upon what our priorities are as a collective youth. Perhaps a wide-spread internet poll might help, but i do not have the expertise to flood the World Wide Web with a single poll. I just think, that as time goes on i'll devote myself further into inspiring a nature-oriented change, and indeed, was this not the essence of the hippie movement?
     
  4. Crush

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    Sounds nice man, but you're english is too damn good :p I seriously had to read stuff multiple times. I think it is way better to live in a sort of commune. Just take care of one another. You wouldn't need money, becuase everyone helps to support the commune. You could just live outside of the rest of the world, in peace. With just your own gardening and hunting meat. That'd be so cool, I might just do that someday :rolleyes:
     
  5. grim_rebel

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    Are you sure it is us who would be living outside the world? Don't you think that it is modern civilisation who has distanced themselves from the 'world'? Hmm... ;)
     
  6. Crush

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    correct of course. I meant like civilasation, get away from the city, away from the mindeless people etc. etc. The world or nature isn't that important anymore to most of the people :(

    But I suppose you could'v already guessed what I meant of course ^_^
     
  7. grim_rebel

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    Hahaha, of course i knew what you were referring to. I just didn't know if YOU knew what you were referring to. I'm like that, i get people to clarify themselves, don't worry, i'm doing you a favor in the long run so you might not confuse another person not as intelligent as myself. :p :D

    Oh, and in this commune of ours. We're gonna have lots of weed right? Weed and home-brewed booze. The men go out hunting and patrolling their boundaries, the women forage and cultivate and prepare the feast, we all get fucked up every night, wake up, repeat. :)
     
  8. NatureFreak412

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    It would be nice to turn the whole planet into small groups of communes. abandon the cities for a while then go back and spread liike seeds and shit and let the forests take over the cities. I bet if some natural disaster killed off a lot of people thats the way it would be.
     
  9. Crush

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    There's gonna be lot's of herb man :D Never drank homemade booze though. The good thing is, live has a purpose for once. Now I just go to school, when I'm graduaded got to work, when I'm retired I chill (this is an example, I chill most of the time :rolleyes: ). There isn't a real purpose. Yes, staying alive that is, but that isn't real hard.
    Now in a commune which takes care of itself, there'll be a real purpose: make sure you have food, herbs (some stuff to put on meat or in a salad too!) water, necesary clothes etc. And you'll have to work for it. And I think it will be lots of fun :) Must certainly try it one time with some friends, just as a test.
    Now for NatureFreak412 I agree. This would be an excellent change to recover earth and let it heal. I don't even think you'd have to plant seeds. I'd rather just trow a bag of seeds somewhere and see where it growes, let the wind carry it. In no time there'll be plants and trees everywhere. There'll be more animals meaning: FOOD.The weak won't survive though, that's just a fact. So there won't be a problem of over-population, I know that doesn't sound nice, but that is just the way it should be. People are protecting themselfs with all sort of things nature never gave them :mad:
    It might be hard to make all the world go on the commune tour :p

    I am backing this plan 110 % ,it rules!!!
     
  10. grim_rebel

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    Indeed... i had a long conversation with my parents concerning survival. The disabled and obese would not survive. Only those who can adapt.

    On a lighter note, I tried posting in the old forum about a commune. My mother is from Madagascar and we can buy a lot of nice land by the beach there. Only a few people were interested, i don't think they found me too serious. But land there is cheap and beautiful, we can trade with the outside world for small supplies, but hopefully we'll be self-dependant. I'd either live there or in the forest in Canada, where i am a citizen. I also back this plan, i really find it more important than dying with the most possessions.
     
  11. jackovgoesjacko

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    you gotta be fuckin' kiddin' me. ok, heres the thing. i have a chance to buy this guitar for around 150 bucks and it is said to retail for 350. it is made by Maxtone guitars and is custom made with special features. I want to know if anyone knows shit about the playability, tone, and if this is a good guitar to invest in.

    I also, if anyone has a clue, would appreciate feedback on both the guitar companies of Cozart and Standell. Specifically, the Cozart EG-1280 model.

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  12. grim_rebel

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    ummm... what? :confused:

    hahahahahaha
     
  13. Crush

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    I know a lot about guitars. The thing I know most is that a post about guitar shouldn't be put in a thread wich contains a serious discusion.:mad:
    I don't like the guitar, it has got only one bar so the sound can't be terribly good and what the hell is the speaker thing in the guitar. I would never pay 150 bucks for this and as you can see, the package has already been opened so....
     
  14. grim_rebel

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    Hmm...a random post indeed. But we digress... That reminds me Crush, guitars would come in very handy. Can't do without music now can we? We'll make our own drums and stuff, use every part of the animal - i used to be obsessed with native-life and pretty much know how to use almost every part of the buffalo... oh well, i gotta say again i never saw that post comin. Totally....whack. lol cheers.
     
  15. Crush

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    Impressive!!!
    I must say I don't know that much of animals, just a bit. If I'd go to a commune I would certainly bring a guitar and make some own stuff, couldn't do without it.
     
  16. tool420

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    Getting back to the whole revolutionary thing. Not to bum you guys out or discourage you, but revolutionaries never realized they were revolutionaries. Except maybe after the revolution. I think that revolutions will just happen as needed. But, I also think that the effects of a revolution are temporary. Hard to explain that last part. Just look at history and you'll see what I mean. That's all I got right now. Too tired to think more. I might post after I sleep. Gimme something to read when I come back.
     
  17. grim_rebel

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    That's not entirely true. I think you've been influenced by one-too-many impressive quotes. I'm currently reading Leon Trotsky's auto-biography, and he along with the Bolsheviks and Mensheviks declared themselves not only as revolutionaries, but Professional Revolutionaries. Still, I do know where you are coming from; a man fights for what is good, this might be a revolutionary act coming from the view of others, but the man only knows that he is fighting for what is right etc... Furthermore, if you took the time to read the last parts of the thread, you might have come to the conclusion that we were not, if indeed we actually were, talking about revolutions. The discussion progressed to one of simply living in the forest, of leaving civilisation - as Crush so eloquently put it. Cheers.
     
  18. Spiritforces

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    This was an answer to the ones who say i heard this before what you gonna do bad boy?

    I know what am going to do about it

    And this was pretty useless, i ve been cheated by the guitar stuff lol :)

    But music help
     
  19. grim_rebel

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    whoa... lost you there buddy.... :confused:
     
  20. Crush

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    Well said, grim_rebel. He should've paid more attantion to the last part. There might have been some referation to the charactics of a revolution, but the conlusion was something totally differant.
     

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