Young Hippies: Ready for a Revolution?

Ok...

What I want to do is like...International Diplomatic community...

Not just "Diplomats" coming to "Debate" and trade currency.

A bunch of "Friends" coming to "Speak" and JUST trade

From ALL over the world.
We don't need "The suits" doing our trading. We don't need a government of the people first...First we need to have EVERYTHING ELSE be of the people, then inevitability the people will become the government as they get more power. There may be some kind of class war or something, nothing like the Mexican cartel stuff.
Probably more like a Civil war/Cold war mix(The states will have to succeed to get away from the tremendous national debt), ending in everyone unhappy but alive, and the states may re-unionize, but the states right will get MUCH stronger at that time
And reconstruction will be more beautiful with the advancements we have in communication, and the movements that are going on


SOOO, I want to make a group of friends trading internationally, and open the doors, so that eventually anyone and everyone is trading openly internationally









That's a tiny piece of my ideas...

Shiva is my father, my god, my self, my future, and my past.

And I have had plenty of time with Shiva, and without Shiva in a cage (Juvy when I was younger) to think about a lot of stuff...
Like, A LOT of stuff...

 

And I'm going to copy and past something I have posted elsewhere about some stuff I think about Shiva (Mj). And it kinda gets into what I want to do too.

I don't want to share TOO much openly online...




Ok, so Cannabis has been around since god knows when. I believe the first reference to it is in the Hindu original text, which is also the first know Human text, The "Rig Veda". Cannabis lived only in the land of the gods, and Shiva was walking through the desert of the gods. Shiva became hot, and tired and rested under the shade of a plant. This was the Cannabis plant, and upon rejuvenation Shiva granted the plant the gift of being sent to grow all over the human world. So not only are we denying ourselves rights, right now. We (the authorities really but I say we because I mean humans) are literally blocking Cannabis from a god granted gift, we are denying the gods and slandering the universe.
So, Cannabis has been in human experience for as long as we have been recording our words. It has also served as a major food staple for humans, which is why I believe noone dies from it. There were probably(Maybe) people who died from OD on Cannabis before, because it only makes sense that there would be. But we have been harmonizing and evolving with this plant, and accepting it's chemical message for so long. That we can now tolerate an amount that is greater than is possible to intake without passing out, (unless you know some chemistry, have a lot of money, and feel like committing suicide very very expensively, and maybe unsuccessfully)but they all died. We NEEDED to grow Cannabis, so the Cannabis intolerant bodies had no choice but to add Cannabis to their diet, and may not have had any idea what "intolerance" was and may have died without even knowing why. But this may be why we can't get too high, evolution and adaptation. We adapted to our needs, and our need was to learn how to accept this beautiful chemical message.
Plants don't have words, or sign language. The only way a plant can talk is with its chemicals (Poison: Don't touch/eat me, THC:Stay away from my flowers water!/What's up animals?) And we have been evolving side by side with Cannabis for...How long? It is saying somthing to us. That only a plant can understand. And plants probably comunicate through their roots ALL DAY LONG. The plants probably have such a large collected knowledge, that we can't even understand. They probably have ideas and systems together. The plants are the key to animal life on earth. They use evaporation as a tool to harness energy, and we only exist as a side effect to plant life. Because the plants were able to become multi-celled, and make use of energy, we were able to hitch a ride to life. We literally NEED them to breathe and eat, and some of them clean our waters.
We need to allow these plants the freedoms they have been given by the gods, and allow them to purify their message. The message right now is probably a mix of SAVE ME!!/I love you/What the fuck??? And we can't understand 3 combined plant messages. ONE IS HARD ENOUGH. We have been evolving with this plant forever, and we shouldn't stop now because Nancy Reagan said so. She thinks she can talk to dead people. But anyways, if you LOVE WEED. Plant the seeds you get EVERYWHERE. Save up every year. Whether you plan on helping those seeds grow, or even not ever looking at them. Collect your seeds. Plant them everywhere. This plant cannot fight the injustice that is the side effect of its life (us). So we have to help it, and in the end, it will help us. This plant has been alive and communicating with the world FAR longer and far better than we have. Let's see what it has to say, and if we know what it's saying better than anyone else in the world. We will have knowledge that no one can gather from reading ALL THE BOOKS IN THE WORLD. Please help this plant gain back its rights around the world. It doesn't deserve to be persecuted.

 

That's really interested about Shiva and cannabis. But it confuses me, because many of my Hindu friends are against weed, or any mind-altering substance. They say it gets in the way of meditation and Yoga. I used to smoke weed all the time, but now I'm very confused. If it does get in the way of entering higher forms of consciousness, I'm done with it.

 

&& I like your ideas about trade by the way

 

Different sects.

Shiva is weed, and Shiva's followers blaze.

There are Holidays where they make weed milk, and drink it while hitting pipes

 

Religion aside, I'm pretty sure weed can either help or hinder you, it depends how responsibly and artfully you use it.

 

There is one crucial difference between ours the the 60's hippie generation. In the 60s the message was 'lets change before this building crumbles under its own weight' But today, movements like occupy wall street are beyond this, the message now is 'we are dying in this building collapse, we have to get out'.
History shows that people have never really rebelled until they were left with few options. What we are seeing today is the collapse of western civilization, and it is leaving billions of young people with very very few options.
Just wait for next summer in America, and you will have your revolution.

 

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2011/11/20111130121556567265.html

Simply put, the immense structural inequalities of the global political economy can no longer be contained through consensual mechanisms of social control. The ruling classes have lost legitimacy; we are witnessing a breakdown of ruling-class hegemony on a world scale...


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we r on a revololution here in aus serously the amount of bush doof and our scene our life style is hitting the citys im shocked in the last 3 years the movement is massive communes ouside of sydney like back in the day im a grower myself 3 months and ill b in the hills 4 sure we need 2 get young people abroad 80% males who use lsd were found 2 b inteligent no study on females but in a comunity we have botnest chemistry dude scientist astrolgy the list goes on we r out there im new to the hippie forum but we r all linking u all r from the us BIG HUGS for everyone

 

Smoke weed. Listen to it.
Don't tell it where to go, or what to do.
Let it guide your thoughts, let it take your body.

This is the first step.

Observe.
See what is around you. Notice the wind, notice the temprature, notice the clouds, the stars, the grass, the trees.
Begin to learn their names, understand where it is they belong in nature.
Deepin your observation, and begin to see why everything is where it is, and what is is doing, and what other things are doing to it...

Then look at things like humans, virus', and bacteria. Realize that this is the category we fall in.

We are a parasite, we gain from other beings loss.
The earth, the animals, the vegetation. The more it loses, the more we gain.

Then realize where YOU belong.
Are you purely part of the human parasite, or do YOU have a place in the Earth as well...


Once you begin to find your place, you will begin to understand.
And always remember.
Questions are the best answers. Don't EVER seek an end...

Yesterday is not right now, and today is not tomorrow.
Livin for the moment?
Then your time's already borrowed...

 

Fuck I'd be happy if this actually happened... Revolution that is

 

It's happening.

 

2 parallel thoughts that are essentially the same thing occured to me while reading this:

#1: "Humans are just a virus in shoes," Bill Hicks

#2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Na9-jV_OJI"]agent smith : humans are a virus - YouTube

The fact is that revolution can only go so far. It is now time for Re-evolution. It is time for the species that we call humans to cut loose all of the stupid ego bullshit that holds us back and has been leading to our own destruction and move upward.

Independence is the most destructive illusion that humans have been lead to believe. If you want to live in the delusion that you are independent look at the food that you eat and look at how many people you depend on to be able to eat that food. Then look at all of the people that depend on you eating that food for their survival. Mind blowing isn't it.

Stay Brown,
Rev J

 

Well put.

We do need to evolve.
And it is upon us...
We feel as if we have peeked...Electricity, magnetism, math, chemistry.
We think we've got the universe figured the fuck out...
What happens when we hit light speed though? Or when we discover the next step above "harnessing electricity".
What happens when the being that can imagine these things comes into the world, what will we think of it?
Anyone seen "Waking life"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvt7oNJfeSc&feature=related"]Waking Life 1/9 - YouTube

 

Thanks man.

Stay Brown,
Rev J

 

I have been thinking this a lot lately too. I feel like I'm the only one around that even thinks about life and the environment. I ask questions. I want to start a revolution! Let's get this shit on before it's too late.

 

It seems to me looking at history though is that revolutions rarely make things better. After the French Revolution the monarchy was replaced with a brutal dictator (Napoleon) who was exiled 3 times. After Tzar Nicholas of Russia was overthrown and executed Stalin took over and made the situation worse. Before the Cuban Revolution Cuba was essentially run by 5 families that used the people as slave labor only to be ousted and have Castro use the same people as slave labor. After Allende was ousted in Chile it lead to Pinochet a facist dictator coming to power and leading to chile having the worst human rights record in the history of the world. Then look at the continuing messes in Haiti regarding unrest and political strife.

There have been successfull revolutions but it seems to me that for the most part things rarely get better from it because generally speaking people are sheep. They listen only to the people that send them the message that they want to hear and not look at the person making the promises. It seems like both sides don't question their leaders enough and things go back to being as clusterfucked as they were before.

Stay Brown,
Rev J

 

I agree fully! We need to take action now. live life to the fullest and make everyone around you feel great. I try to do that everyday. someone is sad, I ask why and try to help solve the issue. if someone is in need of something, and I have a spare, I give it. if someone is laboring I go and help do the job. and sometimes I get down and think "why am I doing this?" then I think of the bright and happy faces that I made happen. and when I do that the other person returns the favor to someone eles. I have started something big in my school, and even in my town. if everyone could do this then the world would be a better place.eace:eace:eace:

 

Right on man!
But first we will go thru a de-evolution. There's a whole philosophy about how mankind will devolve and then build anew.

I see OWS bringing revolution into the current system. I dont see radical revolutionary change like past history but a new kind of revolutionary change within the political system. WE are the 99% we can vote in those who will represent us. Obama was just the beginning. We need representatives of the 99% within all of our local, state and fed. govt's.

 

I think the american revolution is the most successful political (and)OR military revolution in history, or at least, in many thousands of years.

And then for a time the country got even better..... and then it went downhill, and this has repeated several times.

We simply need to drag it back uphill, which does involve pushing those on top of the hill, in america's way, off the hill. But we have a ballot box for that, it could all be done if people would not be apathetic thoughtless shits :2thumbsup:

Anyway, if people won't turn out to choose who's going to run the fucking country, how can you expect them to support your cause (anyone in this thread advocating revolution, I'm talking to you) and a hairbrained "revolution" based on it? Especially when just turning out to vote would be a considerably better, AND easier, option?