You are now the President of the United States...what are you gonna do now?

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  1. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    I'd remove an archaic trade embargo with Cuba, cut back military and defense spending, invest in social programs, abolish the work-for-welfare system, raise minimum wage, establish a strong central government, re-write the American Constitution, decrease my own veto-power, I'd change the electoral collegiate or just abolish it altogether, re-patriate illegal immigrants, get rid of the green backs, break off from NAFTA, cut ties with the Iraq occupation, lower all drinking ages to 18, give up on the war on drugs, cap tuition costs and provide a lower loan apr on federal students loans while giving tax credits to students, create jobs for First Nations peoples, crack down on corporate profit by taxing them more on basically everything, enforce GMO-label standards and organic standards for all goods, close the FDA and fire everyone (not sure what I'd do after that, but it would give me such a thrill to throw things out the window!), I would then create a national news network and promote public broadcasting, public news sources and publicly funded educational programs, etc. I would create a national child care system that was affordable, I'd create curb-side brown boxes and mandatory recycling services for each municipality, I would propose state-wide public auto insurance, I'd ban Trans Fats in foods, I'd create more jobs by hiring civil servants to fix the water systems and raise higher standards of testing, I would make homosexual marriage legal, I'd throw all polygamists in jail, I would remove capital punishment, I would make abortions legal for everyone, I would give out more tax credits for environmental consumer choices, for commercial environmental choices, and I would extend subsidies to eco-friendly farms.

    I'd start there somewhere.
     
  2. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    i'd enjoy my $250000 a year from my ranch in texas. at least until the impeachment.
     
  3. Boogabaah

    Boogabaah I am not here

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    go on vacation to play golf... :rolleyes: and then hunt maybe... :eek:
     
  4. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    you lost me at rewrite the constitution.. and you had so many good ideas besides that one..:cool:
     
  5. praxiskepsis

    praxiskepsis ha!

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    Unless I chose to be a corrupt, hegemonic president - the very first thing I would do:

    1) immediately recall all army personnel and dismantle military bases in foreign territory

    2) peg the dollar to bullion and industrial production + institute and enforce proportional taxation

    3) salvage all strategic industry under Chapter 1 bankruptcy laws and re-regulate the issue of financial instruments and paper

    4) reject all free trade agreements (NAFTA, etc.) and raise tariffs on foreign goods

    5) issue bonds tied to a program financing national infrastructure, social welfare security (rent-regulated housing; public education; food stamps; nationalized health care), and scientific-industrial development

    6) institute and enforce a living wage with correction for inflation and create statutes requiring on-the-job training (as opposed to previous experience)

    7) dismantle electoral colleges and restrict the flow of private capital into political campaigns and lobbying

    8) enforce all cartel laws in strategic sectors (by which media conglomerates e.g., would be broken down)

    9) remove all embargoes and pressure all international bodies to respect and promote the territorial and economic sovereignty of states worldwide + provide one-time amnesty to all immigrants living in the U.S. for 1 year or longer

    10) create a national education department to work in collusion with local boards of ed and research various pedagogical schools of thought (Montessorian/qualitative, e.g. --- as opposed to quantitative pedagogy, etc.)

    In other words, I would pursued the direction this country took during the New Deal under FDR. LASTLY, I'd be assassinated. ;)

    P.S. Overturn capital punishment and decriminalize drug consumption. :piggy:
     
  6. praxiskepsis

    praxiskepsis ha!

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    Repatriate illegal immigrants, Ari?

    If you think it through, you'd have to basically create an American version of Cheka under Stalin to be able to do that to millions of unwilling people.

    And what would you do with their U.S.-born children or other relatives?

    Especially after half-a-century in which the U.S. makes it impossible for Third Wold countries to develop their own economy through the IMF.

    Additionally, the American economy would simply collapse (construction industry, farming, etc.) and become hyperinflationary.

    But, hey. I guess a snow-white Christmas and not hearing foreign languages in the street makes it all worth it. :rolleyes:
     
  7. Carlfloydfan

    Carlfloydfan Travel lover

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    1. Get rid of that pesky federal reserve.

    2. Have the dollar once again backed by gold.

    3. Troops off of foreign soil.

    4. Improve education with the money saved from "3". Education based on critical thought and real life experience instead of memorization of unimportant facts and figures and this robot education system we have set up.

    5. Instead of paying farms NOT to grow food, offer incentives to local farmers to produce organic food locally. Ignore much of what codex alimentarius aims to do.

    6. Work against a NAU, a merger between Canada, Mexico and the USA. Speak out against the EU and that super state. Encourage Europeans to take back their national sovereignty.

    and than

    7. Take back some of these REPRESSIVE laws that violate a humans right to sovereignty over there own body. Including giving them the choice to do what ever the hell they want with their body. (Insane laws include ban on smoking in cars in some states, drinking age and illegal drugs.) I have no interest in drugs, but if people want them, let them. If it is no longer a rebellious thing to do if they are not illegal, the abuse will lower greatly. Call out and bring to court major political people who acted as drug pushers.

    8. STOP the war on drugs. Americans always have to be at war with something eh? Redefine "the war on poverty" into something else completely!! Again..always at war with something.

    9. ABOLISH the death penalty, replacing the DP with very long jail sentences in confined spaces to the most brutal of people.

    10. Declare a state of emergency in regards to the general state of this nations health. Rid peoples dependence of the drug companies by funding more natural holistic styled doctors.

    11. Fluoride out of our water!

    12. An out right BAN on genetically modified food.

    13. Better treatment of animals raised for food, etc. Mandotory that they be fed high quailty food, free ranging and OUTLAW growth hormones.

    14. Slowly ban all fake sugars and lab made ingredients and flavor enhancers for food.

    15. Funding of alternative news outlets.

    16. Advocate for Free moving citizens across the globe. If Joe wants to move from Canada to Mexico why the fuck should it be the governments obligation to stop him and others who desire to relocate. this should be EASY.

    17. Abolish the idea of military industrial complex, pharmaceutical and the new jail as a business idea.

    For starters
     
  8. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    What are you talking about? The American Government has been re-patriating illegals from the day they got off the boat centuries ago, til just a second ago. Millions of Americans have been re-patriated. Look it up, if you doubt me.

    And yeah, I'd re-patriate their offspring too.
     
  9. Unknown American

    Unknown American Rogue Capitalist

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    Abolish the Federal Reserve bank. Convert to a gold standard.

    Implement synthetic oil program. Start program of alternative fuel using non food plant products.

    Secure our own borders. Remove troops from countries like Germany and anywhere where we are waisting money and the countries do not want us there

    Fuck Iraq. Pull them out. Make it or break it baby it all up to you guys now.

    Dissolve the IRS. Start taxing corporations not individuals.

    That is a start.

    Get assassinated for tying to dissolve the Federal Reserve.

    Die.

    Convert to a
     
  10. praxiskepsis

    praxiskepsis ha!

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    Oh, so you'd repatriate born American citizens?

    This is getting better and better...

    Why not go second-generation american while we're at it?

    Your little prejudice is so cockeyed, it's not just entirely impractical, it's cute.

    P.S. Why don't you provide me with your wonderful sources? Let's see how many immigrants were "repatriated" this month and how. :cheers2:

    The expenditure of "repatriation" would be running in the billions all in all. But then again, you're Canadian and prejudice makes it easy to fantasize.
     
  11. lode

    lode Banned

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    Lode's 20 point Plan for America:


    I have a bunch. But I think a 20 point plan is nice and digestible.

    1. Enhance Sarbanse Oxley.

    2. End agronomic export subsidies. They deflate the price of our crops overseas so that local farmers in impoverished nations can't compete, and starve.

    3. Began a phased withdraw in Iraq ending in March. Withdraw in Saudi Arabia.

    4. Sell off all nonstrategic foreign assets to balance federal budget. The US owns many Trillions of dollars of foreign land which serves no strategic purpose.

    5. Increased taxes on top 2% of income recipients.

    6. End the unnecessary and costly war on drugs.

    7. Constitutional ban on three strike laws which contribute to a prison industiral complex.

    8. Make patents for new pharmaceuticals available for one year only. Have a tax credit available for pharmaceutical companies to recoup costs of developing new medecine.

    9. Institute federal work rehabilitation program for released prisoners and homeless populations.

    10. End non military trade sanctions with all nations.

    11. Nationalize public colleges. A college education should cost no more then $5,000 a year.

    12. Large scholarship program instituted for math, medical and science degrees. If you want to become a doctor and you make good grades, you shouldn't pay a dime.

    13. Nationalize healthcare. Theres no reason not too, everyone deserves to be treated when they're ill. It won't be prohibitively expensive. We spend more money on healthcare now than countries with 'socialized' healthcare. The difference is simply pocketed surreptitiously in our system.

    14. Invest in tax credits and research incentives to start up companies looking into alternatives to fossil fuels.

    15. Triple USAID.

    16. End political appointments of Supreme Court judges. Have supreme court appointed by legal association, and have all supreme court rulings submitted to senate where it can be overturned with a 2/3 majority.

    17. End political appointments of many other government agencies and selected by peers and approved by house.(FEMA, FDA)

    18. Dismantle electoral system. One man one vote. Require paper trail.

    19. Require lobbyists to register with C-SPAN.

    20. Require president to have monthly and bimonthly conversations respectively in both houses of congress. The president, myself included, should be required to defend his positions to the peoples representatives.
     
  12. Lady of the Freaks

    Lady of the Freaks Senior Member

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    thanks. it's a beginning. that's just the first day. don't want to the sheep to freak out too much. ;)
     
  13. lode

    lode Banned

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    21. Death To All Humans.
     
  14. Dave_techie

    Dave_techie I call Sheniangans

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    I disagree with some of your political opinions, but respect that you have an efficient list.
     
  15. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Oh yeah, I forgot to say that I'd enforce progressive income tax.
     
  16. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Ughh, I don't think you understand what I meant. I would want to re-patriate illegals, by giving them citizenship. I don't mean extraditing people to their homelands.

    Do you remember when America stole hundreds of thousands of slaves and their offspring were considered to be property and not peoples? Do you remember when they were given their citizenship at some point?

    Well that's what should happen to illegals. They should just be given citizenship, especially if their kids were born in America. It happened all the time where people earned their citizenship and immigration status all throughout American history. Look it up please.
     
  17. Dave_techie

    Dave_techie I call Sheniangans

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    I think instead there should be a system by which, if you are illegal, you can gain legal status, not the bullshit way we have now, but something more practical, and quick, and reasonably painless.

    edit: that is to say, not just give it outright, at least require some paperwork
     
  18. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    They have that already. They call it "Immigrant Status". But it's far from painless.
     
  19. Dave_techie

    Dave_techie I call Sheniangans

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    it bloody should be painless

    I also have a problem with how the food stamp system is run in most states, I have seen people who don't need them use them, both native born and immigrants, and I've seen people who need them go massively without. you should be able to show proof of filing your taxes, or proof that you made to little to be required to file to receive any DIRECT government aide (this does not extend to government funded hospitals, as it is not direct aide, or schools, or many other services that are subset of the government, but not direct)
     
  20. NaNa~cHaN

    NaNa~cHaN Member

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    i would like just give peace and like ppl wouldnt have to go through bullshitt
    oh and help all the kids in africa
    i just bring goodness to america!!!!!!



    GIVE PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     

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