you know, what got to me was the fact that.. you came into our forum's to insult us, to say that we're doing the same shit as everyone else, the only difference being that you have a 'cause' (because, peace and love isn't a cause??) so pretty much it's like saying that what we are doing is STUPID. but you can still pick out when someone is being anti-peaceful? ..just so you can look and feel bigger? if you feel that there is no 'cause' within what we are doing, then there should be nothing for you to pick on when someone says something back to you.. for you to make us look like hypocrites.. but if you think we have no cause then how can you make us out to be hypocrites when there is nothing to be hypocritical of? so pretty much, you have no idea.. and before you make judgment, try hippie-ism out first.. have some nice mutual conversations with old hippies, find out that there really is a cause and then try and explain to us what your wars, your lies, your cheating... what cause that is for.