Would YOU vote for RON PAUL

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  1. Individual

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    And Ron Paul is probably one of the few, if not the only representative who could tell you what is in the bill(s) he's authored/sponsored, and without need of a team of lawyers to interpret them.
     
  2. junglejack

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    Tell me, WE1, I'm curious as to where you got the idea that Paul has never authored a bill??
     
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    A partial audit of the Fed by the GAO reveals $16T ($16,000,000,000,000, or $1.6 x 1013) in secret bailouts to US banks and corporations, and to foreign banks, everywhere from France to Scotland. The Fed claims this was a loan program, but virtually none of the money has been repaid, and it was loaned out at 0% interest. The reason for the secrecy is clear: The American public was outraged when the audit revealed this shocking revelation. To put this into perspective, the US GDP is only $14.6 trillion; we gave out more money than all the commerce and industry in the entire country produces in over a year.

    http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/fiat-money-inflation-federal-reserve-2/
     
  5. WE1

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    Authored one bill that passed and became law. I guess I need to be more specific about Dr No. But what's the point, he stands about as much of a chance of becoming president as I do.
     
  6. YoMama

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    What about untested GMO food polluting our bodies? What about the pollution of more wars do you think a nuke would harm the environment of the entire world?

    The EPA is not protecting us it is giving license to big corporations to pollute while knocking out small businesses and individuals and taking from people the ability to receive any compensation for damage done.


    It is the same with the FDA giving license to big pharma to make vaccines that harm people and not allowing the people injured to sue for damages.
     
  7. junglejack

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    Here's some appropriate bills that should show people what he is all about - perhaps these could be incorporated in the candidate cards some of you are preparing.
    [These were all gotten fro the 112th congress list]

    H.R. 1096: Sanctity of Life Act of 2011
    H.R. 1146: American Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2009
    H.R. 1102: Affordable Gas Price Act
    H.R. 151: Seniors' Health Care Freedom Act of 2010
    H.R. 219: Social Security Preservation Act of 2011
    H.R. 150: Senior Citizens Tax Elimination Act
    H.R. 2044: Health Freedom Act
    H.R. 147: Prescription Drug Affordability Act

    The bills that Paul authored> looked them up anyway (thanks again dog)
    I dont know how many became law or how many of these are good , but it looks like he was at least active with some needed ones
     
  8. OneOfTheDifference

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    RON PAUL 2012!

    Here are some quotes I wrote down taken right from Ron Paul's mouth; these quotes demonstrate only a few of the things he stands for and will stand behind:[FONT=&quot][/FONT]

    "The purpose of the Government is to protect the personal liberty of it's citizens - not to run their personal lives, not to run the economy, and not to think that we can tell the world how they ought to live." .... Ron Paul

    "I am convinced the best formula for preserving the American way of life and giving us all peace, is Freedom, Limited Government, & Minding our own business overseas."
    .... Ron Paul

    "I am absolutely opposed to a National ID card that our current government wants. This is a total contradiction of what a Free Society is all about. The purpose of the American Government is to protect the privacy of all individuals; not to protect the secrecy of Government. We don't need a National ID Card." .... Ron Paul

    "Everyone assumes America must play the leading role in crafting some settlement or compromise between the Israelis and the Palestinians. But Jefferson, Madison, and Washington explicitly warned against involving ourselves in foreign conflicts."
    .... Ron Paul

    "Believe me, the next step is a currency crisis because there will be a rejection of the dollar, the rejection of the dollar is a big, big event, and then your personal liberties are going to be severely threatened." .... Ron Paul

    "All initiation of force by the Government is a violation of someone's rights." .. Ron Paul

    He is the only candidate who has stated a solid plan for economic recovery for our country - the other candidates just vaguely say they'll improve the financial situation, but they don't provide any sort of clear-cut plan to do so. Ron Paul
    will immediately bring all of our troops home that are overseas. Do you know that it is costing America approximately 4 Billion dollars a month to keep our people posted in other countries outside of America, and keeping them there does not improve the security of our country in any way? Four-Billion dollars every month!!


    Of paramount importance, Ron Paul will restore the Constitution - and this is critical. We are all aware of the horrific fact that the Senate recently passed the S1867 Bill that eliminated our right to trial, etc. I'll put it to you this way: if we
    don't figure out a way to make sure that Ron Paul is our next President, we are
    seriously through. You thought Hitler was bad? Our country is clearly being steered into complete fascism or communism, and Ron Paul is the only one that will not let that happen. Some of you may not be aware of this, but the personal freedom of each & every one of us is perilously close to being taken away soon.

    Ron Paul & his son Rand Paul both voted against S1867, and Ron Paul has a 30-year history of keeping his word and doing what he says he will do. He wants
    to completely eliminate Income Tax! He will audit the Fed!

    Check out this cool song some rapper guy wrote - he says what we need to hear:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKQCVYk4T18&feature=related"]John Galt- "You Can't Stop The Truth" (Ron Paul Song) - YouTube

    Here's a really recent video taken by some citizen who attended Ron Paul's
    appearance in Washington state just four days ago. The film quality is pretty
    bad, but listening to Ron as he is naturally; and what he'll do for us is priceless.
    Listen to how the crowd goes crazy over him; folks that know what he stands
    for just go nuts over him. He is so down to earth and sensible - this video is
    long, but this will show you what Ron Paul is all about:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei-RZ54gQq4&feature=related"]Ron Paul rocks Vancouver, WA (2/16/2012) - YouTube

    OneOfTheDifference





     
  9. WE1

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    Ron Paul has enough trouble just finding another Republican to cosponsor his bills. The mans legislative record is nonexistent, even after decades in the house. His bills just languish in committees without passing. And some of you think he would make a good president. So, now we have some so-called hippies endorsing a whacked-out Republican/Libertarian/gynecologist. Amazing.
     
  10. OneOfTheDifference

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    Me thinks thou dost protest too much ......


    Incidentally, WE1 - your post compels me to inquire: what the heck are you doing participating in this forum when you think so little of us all? Hmmmm? Seems a bit questionable - oops!

    One would perceive from your derisive comments that are clearly directed towards us all, that you would unarguably think it is beneath you to attend. Guess you didn't learn your lessons in Kindergarten, huh? You know - learn to share; don't take something that doesn't belong to you; and don't call people names - it's not nice, it isn't necessary, and it disallows one from communicating effectively.

    It would behoove you to realize that the folks that you mistakenly refer to as "so-called Hippies" are a bit more on the ball than you think - and I regret to inform you that your post will only serve to add fuel to our 'Ron Paul For President' fire!! You'd have been better off utilizing a vastly different stratagem, because you didn't pull it off, tough guy.
     
  11. OneOfTheDifference

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    Oh, WE1 - one more thing .... you people find the awakening pretty unsettling, don't you?
     
  12. WE1

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    Yup..I'm voting for Obama. Pitty isn't it. And he will be reelected, while your guy goes back to his do nothing job on Capitol Hill.

    My response was a general one. Sounds to me like you're the one who's unsettled. And its rather obvious you took offense at my opinion, because it shows what you Paulites are really made of. It that you won't tolerate dissenting opinions. How Republican of you. Because it shows you have no defense against the truth, except personal attacks. So continue to spread your Ron Paul Fire. You know the fire that even Republicians ignore.

    And don't forget to vote Republician on election day..
     
  13. OneOfTheDifference

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    Boy, howdy WE1; you laid this one right in our laps - thanks!

    Why would anyone vote for Ron Paul, you mean? The better question is:
    Why would anyone NOT want to vote for Ron Paul? What person in their
    right mind would advocate any individual other than Ron Paul? All the others will be more of the same - and will serve to be the final tipping point for the complete demise of us citizens. If you can say that America is not in dire desperate need of complete restoration, then there's something wrong with the way you think.

    Explain to us, please; why you think it's not a good idea to bring all of our troops home and by doing so, eliminate the spending of 4 billion dollars a month; so we can use that money to restore our economy? And, while you're at it, tell us why it's a good idea to continue taking our hard-earned money from us, in the form of income taxes - when in fact, the Founding Fathers said that no tax shall be taken from the citizens? Also, we'd be real interested in hearing what you have to say about our current leader lying to all of us when he promised - he vowed - that he would not sign Senate Bill S1867 - and then turned right around on New Year's (while everyone was preoccupied with the holiday), and betrayed us by signing it and passing it through! Explain how a blatant action like that can possibly foster any sense of trust in anything after that? Just what kind of a show are they running? First the Patriot Act, now that.

    Yeah, you're right - Ron Paul probably was the only one who voted against all that stuff. Don't you get it, man? Everything you state about Ron Paul only serves to illuminate how uniquely good he is for us.

    Give it up; you've already lost so much ground that I'm embarrassed for you.
     
  14. OneOfTheDifference

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    The correct spelling of that word is "pity" , not "pitty".

    I comprehend that your response was a "general one" - that's why I continually referred to an "us" in my reply - capisce?

    Who wouldn't take offense to name-calling? There is more than one descriptor that would be quite befitting of who you portray yourself to be,
    but name-calling just isn't my style - and it's such a lame diversion tactic,
    as well. And, you really have no idea what we Ron Paul devotees are made
    of; that is abundantly clear. I personally have no problem with dissenting
    opinions; providing they are based upon a foundation of good sense and
    accurate information - but yours aren't.

    You'll never convince me that the truth about Ron Paul needs to be defended - the truth is it's own defense; because it hides nothing. That's the beauty of it. I never attacked you personally - you've got me mixed
    up with yourself - that's what you do.

    I would be very interested to hear why you're okay with supporting a man
    who lied to us all and then betrayed us by signing S1867. How can you possibly have faith in a man that lied to you and betrayed you? It's not a pity that you are going to vote for him - the real shame is that you place faith in someone who betrayed you - that's why I feel pity for you.
     
  15. LetLovinTakeHold

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    The # 1 reason why I will be voting for Ron Paul.......

    "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

    The 10th amendment of the US Constitution.

    We are so far from that it is asinine.

    Paul seems to be the only candidate who has even read the US Constitution.
     
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    Those were some excellent questions, OneOfTheDifference. I can't wait to hear his answer.

    Anyone who doesn't want to put an end to the Federal Reserve has either not looked into it, or they're a glutton for punishment, or they're a shill.
     
  17. yellowcab

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    Haha you guys are still beating this:beatdeadhorse5: .Perhaps OneOf neglected to bother reading post after post of reasons why Paul should not be president and continues with the same vague replies about freedom and ending the fed but never addressing the negative impact his policies will have. You know the ones posted over and over again that no Paul supporter really seems to think matter and have no real answers to.
     
  18. LetLovinTakeHold

    LetLovinTakeHold Cuz it will if you let it

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    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to too much Liberty than those of attending too a little degree of it."
    -Thomas Jefferson

    The thing is, despite Paul's most extreem views, he is a man of the Constitution. He doesn't want to push his views onto anyone, he wants the people to make divisions for themselves. Take abortion for example. He is personally against it, but says it shouldn't be the governments right to tell you what is right or wrong. You have to make those decisions for yourself. Also, he won't try to overstep his political authority. Constitutionally speaking, the president isn't authorized to make many changes on his own.
     
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    Any candidates who back the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of human beings in other countries in the name of confiscating non-existent WMDs are dangerous.

    I find it interesting that Ron Paul naysayers conveniently over look the immorality of such atrocities.

    Let's start there. Why would you support a candidate who says they'll bomb Iran based on non-existent evidence? Do you find liars appealing? And if so, why?
     
  20. PatchouliCat

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    I'd vote for Ron Paul. This country needs a CHANGE! :peace:
     
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