First: the indians WERE using the land. Only they did it respectfully, and in a sustainable way. We too could farm and live sustainably, but not in a way AT ALL like we're doing now. We'd have to be far smaller-scale, and it may be that populations are too big for that. Second, and more importantly, regarding the first post: You're right that the developers, Walmarts, Home Depots, and all the other corporations and businesses are ruining the planet. But it's the CONSUMER'S fault for buying into it. No one is forcing us to buy all the low priced junk that we buy. No one is forcing us to drive gas guzzlers or live in suburbs. WE ARE AT FAULT. Stop shifting blame onto the corporations. Yes, they do a major part in the damage, but so do you, so do I, and so do almost all Americans, for their part. We are the ones funding this "sacred cow, capitalism God" sort of society we live in. any change will have to be at the grassroots level, a shift in perspective not only of a few (CEO's and politicians or the environmentalists), but of the masses in general. Anyways, what is your point? Did you come here to simply rant, or to say something useful?
Firstly, I resent that we're calling each other idiots over a difference of opinion. Give freedom of speech a chance. Secondly, I appreciate this analysis.
Well said. Corporations only exist beacuse of us. Right now we're all funding some internet corporation, correct? Even if it is a small local company, they're paying money to a bigger more nation wide company because a small company cant afford to lay down their own backbones. I dont think not one of us could go a year without putting money into the hands of a corporation. You need a garden hose, you go to Home Hardware. You need a furnace to warm your house when its -40oC, you pay money to oil corporations. You want to rant about something on the internet, you pay money to a internet provider, which pays money to a bigger one. You want a bottle of water, you (may) be paying money to Coca-Cola. The only way you can truly not have to worry about any corporation is live off the land in the middle of nowhere and be completly primitive. So I'll quote TrippinBTM's post..."We are the ones funding this "sacred cow, capitalism God" sort of society we live in."
yes, the blame resovles around to the dumb ass consumers who buy into the cheap marketing techniques which perpetuate every aspect of "normal" life
What the hell is this about Wal-mart and consumerism? I clicked on this thread because I was hoping for a serious discussion on the merits of raping one's mother.
Don't let anyone tell u, u are wrong, because there just not informed on what is happining or don't care. We all can make a difference! U cool w/ me!
Very true. before i watched the movie about walmart i shopped ther, but then i i watched it i stopped. i hate Walmart! I plead guilty!
Rigamarole vbmenu_register("postmenu_2184002", true); Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: los angeles Age: 20 male Posts: 662 What the hell is this about Wal-mart and consumerism? I clicked on this thread because I was hoping for a serious discussion on the merits of raping one's mother. __________________ DEADLY. exactly what it is m'boy it is what it is and thats what it is so you should be interested bahahaah
Well, then maybe somebody shouldn't title their threads "would you rape your mother?" when they have absolutely nothing to do with raping mothers!
Well you see.... Long ago, certain intellectuals realized that the public as a whole is a group of unruly children. They must be trained and disciplined if we are all to have society. So, to achieve this end, these intellectuals came up with something called religion. Religion is a wonderful way of keeping large masses of people in line: It provides people with a consequence for their actions - it imposes rules upon people of an otherworldy nature... And so, people behave - they learn to accept their situation and attempt to live an orderly life. However, it seems that most of these wonderful religions (and to clarify, I speak mostly of the Semitic religions), have a time limit as to there effectiveness. Eventually, people stop revering their religious leaders - control is lost. Fortunately, somewhere in the course of time, those same intellectual types came up with a much better solution than religion... it was called money. Instead of expecting people to believe in the supernatural and afterworld consequences for their actions, now the consequences were reduced to daily life. No work... no money... no food... no life... So now, instead of holding afterlives in consequence... now our daily lives are held in consequence. It's much more short term; much more believeable. I guess it's not all that different.... Instead of believing in a tormented afterlife, we now live in torment over an imaginary number which is our financial worth. And the power to change isn't in a quick fix piece of legislation or judicial descision. It lies solely in education and information exchange - something all great dictators have been quick to terminate.