Actually this is a contradiction - by saying you think a girl who sleeps around for fun really doesn't have self worth, then you are judging. However, the bigger issue is why do you think a girl who sleeps around for fun hasn't self worth and what does a man respecting her have to do with it. That is a rather archaic - no medieval concept. Now I slept around with many friends in the '60s both men and women. So are you saying the women who had sex with me and other brothers had no self worth? How about the guys, them too. Well we all disagree with that concept. BTW, when I first met my wife, she had slept around and knew I did as well. We respected ourselves and each other. I suspect you are either quite young and naive or quite conservative in your view.
Well on the first part, you chill. If you did not say you were talking about me, then you didn't express yourself too well. Let's try that again this time without the excerpts and ellipses: A little writing tip for this problem is to use "one" instead of the more personal "you." Now for the discussion at hand, I disagree with one's concept that implies that free luv is intrinsically bad. Yes, unprotected sex is bad these days, but that is not the issue. The issue is whether just having protected sex with a number of ppl is bad. My opinion is no, it is not. Oh, BTW I never knew Free Love was a theory. We just did it 'cause it was there, the time was right, girls liked to fuck as much as guys and we did. You had to have been there I suppose.
Eh, I don't really care about playing semantics games. Slut slut dirty slut, I'd like to put in in her put yyyaaaaaaaay god! /exit thread
I try not to belittle ppl with poor English language skills, and usually come to the defense of ESOL ppl who are being belittled by arrogant punks on forum boards. English is a very difficult language - I would hate to learn it as an outsider. However, a native speaker who doesn't "care about playing semantics games," when that is the essence of any communication, has really declared a degree of ignorance. Now I am not into arguing as some on these forums do. I enjoy having discussions as if we were sitting around the living room. Especially if we were sitting around a living room ppl would be more realistic about getting into some other guy's face with a bunch of shit. But this is the internet where any immature kid can yell any shit he wants, albeit poorly expressed.
Hey man, just cause you're a sexual deviant doesn't mean you have to take everything so personally. (joking) lol I was just expressing my opinion, and you threw a pissy. Deal with it. Sometimes immature kids disagree with old farts.
SELF-RESPECT: It was suggested that people who have sex on a more casual basis have less self-respect than those who, say, wait until the third date or something. I think that's silly. Yes, if you have sex with random people because you want attention and that's how you get it, maybe that shows a lack of self-respect. If you have sex with many people because you don't have a regular partner and that's how you're getting your sexual needs met, it seems to me that shows respect for yourself, although it shows a lack of respect for bullshit societal norms. As long as it is truly your own desire and you're being responsible, there's no lack of self-respect. DISEASE: It was suggested that a "slut" is someone who "spreads disease" and doesn't use safe sex methods. That's interesting. You can have lots of sex partners, but as long as you have a safer sex discussion first (getting testing status and sexual history) and use protection, you aren't going to spread disease. I think most STDs are spread by monogamous people who go from one relationship to another without getting tested in between. Under the "spreading disease" theory, the most sexually active people I know are not sluts at all, but many people who are serially monogamous are sluts, even though they don't fuck until the third date and only date one person at a time. Some of the people I know who are sexually active with multiple people are also those who have the most self-respect and who are the most careful about disease. And mostly, they consider themselves rather slutty, not in a derogatory sense, but in the sense of proudly claiming a term used to put people down, like the GBLT community reclaiming the term "queer." Read "The Ethical Slut" for more on how good, self-respecting, loving people behave when they have multiple sex partners. Please don't assume that those who want multiple sex partners lack self-respect, lack concern for their own health or the health of their partners, or are otherwise less desirable than you monogamous types.
She is a slut..she just doesn't like to think that she is one. The same goes for a few others on here. You are what you are. The definition does not change just because it is you.
You should keep up with technology and keep a video diary... No, just have fun; who cares what people think.
I agree, she is. By the standard of our generation, definately. By the standard of her generation, who the hell knows.
Huh? I don't think she's a slut by the standard of my generation. I was there fucking all sorts of ppl in New Orleans, my age or younger in 1968. All my friends were doing the same and each other. I don't think any of us were sluts - just having fun. We were throwing off the puritan mindset that apparently a lot of ppl on this thread - both young and old - still subscribe to.
New Orleans, San Francisco, LA were definately slut zones even in my teen years. Everywhere else was relatively normal. Up here in the Great White there were no cities known for sluttery back then. Free love was what we saw in the movies about hippies. We didn't actually live that way. Not in Toronto anyway.
would you consider ME slutty? I tried making a list once and ran out of attention before i ran out of names, bahahahhaha.....
generally, on the net, using capitals for a sentence implies that you're yelling, but that's cool if you didn't intend for it to seem that way i sleep around for fun - it is fun! it's not for 'attention' - i get plenty of that whether or not i choose to sleep with someone.. i do it because i enjoy sex, and because being in a monogamous relationship, for me, is detrimental to my wellbeing - it encourages aspects of my personality that i like less to become more predominant (ie. feeling dependant on that person to keep me happy) whereas non-monogamous caring relationships discourage that aspect of my personality and help me to feel happy and fulfilled. my self worth is more than fine, i am sovereign controller of my experience here on earth, and i choose to make that experience as enjoyable as i possibly can, because i love being alive and experiencing all that it entails steamwater - you put it better than i could have, and 'the ethical slut' is a fantastic book!
i see what you're saying - i think it comes down to a few things, one being discretion, another being who i choose to sleep with and how i treat those people as well i have had my personal space disrespected only recently this year - someone with whom i was clear that i did not want anything sexual took it upon themselves to try it on me while i was asleep.. needless to say i was furious and that person is now cut off from all contact with me. but i don't think that situation was a result of my sexual behaviour so much as a result of them having some serious issues!
Im sorry to hear that:/ Yea this is a differnet situation.You just got to becareful because theres alot of people that take advantage of you when they dont respect you, bacuse they think its ok with you without your consent..