Worst Rapper Alive?

2pac's best seller did much better than triple platinum. All eyez On Me went diamond, selling over 10 millions copies since it has been released.

 

i think i got my point across good enough without you adding that fact lol....

thanks anyways

 

Yeah it's cool. Just don't insult Pac by saying his best seller only sold 3 mil. I mean, triple is good, but not by 2pac standards. Also, please don't compare him to 50 Cent. 50 is nowhere near being in the same league as Pac. Nor is anyone else. I do appreciate the fact that you mention 2pac as being the greatest rapper to ever go mainstream. That's that shit He doesn't get the respect he deserves. Kudos.

 

i didnt compare him to pac......i never EVER would.....i was simply using his success as an example

 

Oh, ok. Just making sure.

 

Now that I'm done laughing - because you take everything is so stupid context. For instance:

no replucican/democrat battle in rap business... and less than half of us listens to rap...

NO SHIT SHERLOCK!!! fucking hell, did I mention that had anything to do with music, or rap in particular?

You said to me: 1.4 million people think otherwise.

I was just giving an example of how a large amount of people can be wrong, in anything.

Stop reverting everything to some "battle" between rappers.

2pac being the best rapper to go mainstream is your opinion. You cannot state it as fact.

You can prove whether music is good or not from your opinion? You COMPLETELY miss the point. OPINIONS are individual. You cannot use them as fact to prove music is good, as you did.

QUOTE: "1.14 million people think otherwise"

It's an opinion, it doesn't prove anything, other than [this number] of people bought this record, and [this number] liked some of his music.

There is no way to judge music quality. There is a way to judge how many people hold the same opinion, but that STILL doesn't bear and relevance to the quality of music.

Which is why, there is no way that we can prove who is the worst rapper, which is why it is opinion.

I stated my opinion and you come out with "YOU CAN'T ARGUE WITH FACTS". Facts which prove people's opinion, and record sales.

This thread asks "who is the worst rapper", not "who is the least popular rapper". Therefore, there is no way to measure this. So inevitably, it is all down to opinion.

So yes, my opinion can argue with any facts you can pump out. Because you cannot prove how good music is, or how bad - you can only prove the opinion of people.

"i think i got my point across good enough without you adding that fact lol...."

No, your point was retarded and just proved how you think figures = opinion.

And although I would guess it was a joke - you never know, you seemed to have taken everything I have said literally to the extreme, or misunderstood it: the difference between me and 50, is that I don't try to call myself a rapper.

 

Fact:Something believed to be true or real

opinion:A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof

in other words....an opinion to an individual is also a fact until proven otherwise by himself or another individual

The Massacre sold 1.14 million copies in four days, the largest total ever racked up in an abbreviated sales cycle

thats 1.14 million people, in 4 days.....with the same opinion.....the same 1.14 people that KNOW 50 cent is possibly the best rapper (im not one of them)

in other words....this album sold more copies than any other record ever to be released in an abreviated sales cycle....wich means more people have a posotive opinion about 50 cent's music than anyone else that EVER had an album released in an abreviated sales cycle....

wich ultimatly means an unbias opinion....said 50 cent was more successful....
(with proof) than thousands of other artists......

i apoligise for my excessive use of the word "better".....its just easier to say better....than to get 100's of facts and statistics

statistics are the only thing keeping people from arguing that aaron carter is a better rapper than 2 pac....IF and only if more people agreed that aaron carter was better(through statistics IE record sales) would i have to submit

i know better than anyone their is no RIGHT way to tell if one thing is better than another.....but their is a human way.....and its called voting...

Voting:To express a choice, opinion or one's preference for a candidate or for a proposed resolution of an issue

2 pac shakur acomplished more than any other individual to ever be displayed as a mainstream rap artist,wich includes selling the most records, and holding the most opinions that people see as fact that 2pac shakur's supremecy is absolute......

FACT

 

"thats 1.14 million people, in 4 days.....with the same opinion.....the same 1.14 people that KNOW 50 cent is possibly the best rapper (im not one of them)"

But how do you measure the amount of people that would never be seen dead buying his album? You can't, therefore your argument is flawed.

As for 2pac, as I have explained, record sales mean shit all, apart from the number of people who buy the album. There is no way to prove if all these people liked the album, or however many people wouldn't buy the album.

Thus it is fundamentally flawed argument when it comes to "worst rapper".

Show me a reliable source that show the 2pac holds the most opinions. it could be an online poll. But I could find another which differs.

you cannot use record sales to prove something which is based on opinion! Will you get that into your head?

"Fact:Something believed to be true or real"

No. A fact is something which IS true or real, otherwise it is a misinformed statement.

"wich ultimatly means an unbias opinion....said 50 cent was more successful....
(with proof) than thousands of other artists......"

If we were arguing about most succesful rapper or least sucessful rapper, I would agree with you. But we are not, this thread is about best and worst, and that is subjective to an individuals opinion.

And cannot be proved either way.

 

lol w/e man u win.....im tired of this arguing in circles.....

no hard feelings

 

Yeah mate no problem, agree to disagree and all that.

And for the record - I don't disagree that 2pac is absoblutely amazing.

 

ya.....and for the record.......i think 50 cent is a pretty shitty rapper

 

I take back 50 cent as my worst rapper... after seeing this:

"The Kersal Massive"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6LMpUPRjVQ

It's embarrasing to live in the same country as these guys...

 

Shaq

 

master p

expect for icecream man

 

The worst rappers: Yin Yang twins, Yung Joc, Mike Jones, Bubba Sparxxx, Paul Wall.

The best rappers: Kanye West, Run DMC, Common, Del the Funky Homosapien, Eminem, OutKast, Jay-Z, Beastie Boys.

I am right.

 

I BUSTED UP WHEN I READ YOUR POST, I FUCKIN LISTENED TO THIS SONG BY HIM AND I CRACKED UP!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I'm glad somebody knows wtf I'm talking about with that. Tell me that's not the worst shit you've ever heard in your life......

 

Now, wait a minute. The Deliverance album was pretty awesome. He's newest CD was garbage though. That I'll admit.

 

Jay-Z sucks ass and Kanye West uses a ghost writer, which automatically excludes him from your list of "The best rappers".

OutKast is the shit, you are right about that.

 

uhh theres this creepy rapper dude around boulder that hands out CDs, and we all call him mc tweaker. Yeah his rap sucks and he is a tweaker... so i think he might be the worst rapper alive. Theres another dude that lives around here, in one of the really rich neigborhoods (lol thats your first clue he sucks) and hes white, but dresses like hes from the hood and makes raps about how hard his life is. He is like 25 and lives with his rich parents... douche. For mainstream rappers i would say 50 cent or maybe TI. their songs are catchy... but they really suck