When I said: "I don't actually think he believes this to be honest." I wasn't actually talking to you. But, I'm glad that you have dropped the charade and come out to say what you posted was a lot of crap. I'm not quite sure how successful your little experiment was, however. I'm also not sure it isn't a patronising and an arrogant thing for you to have done...nevermind, moving on... If you don't actually believe what you initially posted, why say: "more gates positive feedback ... okay .. yep .. do you work for the gates corporation or are recieving funding from these people to come to forums and defend them?" What's that all about? You're claiming you don't believe what you posted on the one hand, and taking a swipe at somebody who asks you to back up your perceived position, on the other. Which now seem to be your position. All I can think, is that you are not taking your meds. Make up your mind, take a position, or shut up...is my advice.
well the only "eletes" i see having a damd thing to do with it is mom nature herself. we probably will live it up to her to do it for us, and very probably won't like the way she does it. other possibilities DO exist. the most reasonable, ethical, and to me hopeful, being to reduce human fertility accross the board, without bias or exception. perhaps some vector will arise in nature to do THAT for us. but why wait for and count on it? famine and disease (more then usual) are very likely to result from the ongoing, and if anything, understated and underestimated, global climate shifting going on. like i said, we probably won't like the way mom nature goes about it. genocidal wars would be much worse though. just as unbiased fertility reduction would be much better. we ARE pushing the envilope now, evidence being environmental degradation it doesn't take rocket science to recognize.