women are ambivalent

Discussion in 'Relationships' started by sanpedro, Jun 25, 2005.

  1. icedteapriestess

    icedteapriestess linguistic freak

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    Thanks for making me laugh. That's rich. You are one messed up little man, aren't you?
     
  2. shirley314

    shirley314 Member

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    "i'm not generalizing, it's the truth" - it's YOUR truth. Try to think about it and you will notice that not all people have the same truth.
    "and even if they do it rarely serves them" - please explain
    "Women are ambivalent " - human beings are generally known to be ambivalent if not multivalent:)
    "thats why they need a man" - and a man surely does know what they want;) who's this man? the Delphic Oracle??

    bonus (thinking theme 4 u): you WANT women to need you because otherwise you would feel useless?
     
  3. Silver Salamander

    Silver Salamander Member

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    No, and you're not the high priestess of wisdom, either, babes....so don't mock. What he is, is bewildered, confused and exasperrated at womens illogical approach to sexual attraction. He is starting to learn that the world is not necessarily a nice place, that women are not the gentle sex, that they are hopelessly attracted to assholes, and asshole behaviour at the expense of Mr Nice......and very, very few are 'woman' enought to admit it.......
     
  4. icedteapriestess

    icedteapriestess linguistic freak

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    Have never tried to pass myself off as being the high priestess of wisdom. He may be bewildered, but he is also passing judgements on the female gender. It would be the same as me saying that "men are abusive jerks who love to beat up women". To take one bad experiance and transfer that experiance across the board is incorrect. Have you read his other thread? This is the "women don't know what they want" thread, his other is the "women are good for nothing" thread.

    Not all women are hopelessly attracted to assholes. And sometimes, Mr. Nice isn't all that nice. Men are not blameless. It takes 2 to tango.
     
  5. gdhmomchild

    gdhmomchild Duct tape abuser

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    o......mfg..... For one thing dude, the two words are redundant! With that opinion and attitude, its no wonder you don't draw a better type to you. Everything you have complained of I have seen men show the same qualities, and often with less tact and class. I don't know what end of the gene pool you and Salamader fish from but everything you both have complained about I have seen in both genders. I just prefer to fish from less shallow pools. Maybe you need to take a good look at yourself and your own attitudes but I'm sure you won't. It's easier to blame everyone else.

    One entry found for ambivalence. Main Entry: am·biv·a·lence
    Pronunciation: am-'bi-v&-l&n(t)s
    Function: noun
    Etymology: International Scientific Vocabulary
    1 : simultaneous and contradictory attitudes or feelings (as attraction and repulsion) toward an object, person, or action
    2 a : continual fluctuation (as between one thing and its opposite) b : uncertainty as to which approach to follow


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    Main Entry: un·cer·tain [​IMG]
    Pronunciation: "&n-'s&r-t&n
    Function: adjective
    1 : [size=-1]INDEFINITE[/size], [size=-1]INDETERMINATE[/size] <the time of departure is uncertain>
    2 : not certain to occur : [size=-1]PROBLEMATICAL[/size]
    3 : not reliable : [size=-1]UNTRUSTWORTHY[/size]
    4 a : not known beyond doubt : [size=-1]DUBIOUS[/size] b : not having certain knowledge : [size=-1]DOUBTFUL[/size] c : not clearly identified or defined
    5 : not constant : [size=-1]VARIABLE[/size], [size=-1]FITFUL[/size]
    - un·cer·tain·ly adverb
    - un·cer·tain·ness [​IMG] /-t&n-(n)&s/ noun
     
  6. sonador_hermosa

    sonador_hermosa Member

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    you seriously need to grow up. just because you can use big words like "ambivalent" doesn't mean you know anything. EVOLVE!
     
  7. reincarnatmenowK

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    lol -the way you put I didnt sound woman friendly at first but I know what you mean .. they need a MAN and not a fickle BOY ....what makes a man -?- someone who can prove to them that LOVE is real ...and lasting through thier cosistent positive actions and being clear about what they want and not change it day to day ....those kind "actions" which in turn create a more positive responce from a woman .. they are no longer "unsure" .....and yes.... vice versa. Woman are tired of bieng made into fools ...that is why the appear "unsure"
     
  8. Disconformitized

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    i guess it's aplicable to either sex, but it seems like women cant get enough of cockiness. Or to use a less harsh word, certainty or confidence? Even if it means taking a scumbag shallow guy thats certain of his desire to screw her and pretend he cares...

    women will take that any day of the week over an uncertain guy, even if that uncertain guy finds the woman just as phyiscally atractive as the scum bag, But he's uncertain of how much he really cares about her character...

    As long as u make the female feel like she is wanted, then she'll decide wut she wants???
     
  9. reincarnatmenowK

    reincarnatmenowK Member

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    huh ..lol -I believe a man or woman is apt to learn more if they express what it is that they desire ... love or sex or both .. after a period of time a person may go the long route to learn what is being sought of them ...you know run off instinct if it doesnt become clear ..which having to depend on that alone is a flag that a game is being played or their possible partner has fears to contend with ... even an uncertain person has a point where they express in some way what it is that they seek wether through words or action .. it becomes apparent ..but in this day and age who wants to play games ..or insult each others intelligence....our time is valuable ...a person who is uncertain of anothers charachter -if that were the case ...well then that is to be appreciated/respected ...and I am sure one could find out quickly by simply asking that person if they feel a persons charachter is something to place importance on and if so why ....basic probe questions ..if they are not thinking of these things then clearly they are not seeking for the depth of a relation ..I admit some people are just hard to figure out. I know I intentionally have sent mixed signals to avoid feeling/looking a fool. The dumb thing is that you look just as dumb contradicting yourself which hurts credibility and trust because your not being consistent. lol so in these matters its best to just be clear and to the point from the start .. I will admit that I want to KNOW the persons who'se arms I fall into so that this heart is safe ..they may appear credible and of good character .. but to KNOW beyond that appearance is to simply well ..love as if you were never hurt....I am willing to wait for love/sex ...to have both is a blessing so I just rather wait for it than give it away -yes I have views and observations that are open but that is different than my ways and actions ...the message may seem mixed but its just that I am respectful of the different possibilites that could be but once I am connected with a person they usually know what it is that we agree on ...so I will chance looking the fool ...and love as if I were never hurt ...
    personally I dont stick with a cockie person ...if they are joking around about it ..no big deal ..but if they are really that way ..there is no way they will get past a few hours around me ..if even that ..the nice guys do actually win ..if they are nice ..they wait ..allow us to fall ..to see ..to learn .. to understand ...and appreciate ...and return having learned a lesson ..and to never make the mistake again ...that can sometime take years ...but at one point or another life deals us a deck that teaches us to appreciate a good thing.
     
  10. gdhmomchild

    gdhmomchild Duct tape abuser

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    I hate stupid gender bashing generalizations. Its like saying all men are only interested in looks and sex. I meet many men that can't handle my directness and the fact that I expect them to be able to hold an intelligent conversation.

    Where are all these women you refer to being met? In a bar? Oh well, we know how reliable people getting drunk in a bar are. I meet soooo many quality people getting drunk in bars (NOT!) Alcohol, mating games and ambivalence run rampant in a bar on both sides of the gene pool. Find a seat off the the side where you have a good view of the place and watch the whole "floor show" one night. Men and women all playing stupid games with each other, jockeying for position thru the night.
     
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