Windows, Mac, or Linux?

Discussion in 'Computers and The Internet' started by Just_Dave, Jan 19, 2012.

  1. sunfighter

    sunfighter Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Mac are slowly but surely taking over

     
  2. TheGhost

    TheGhost Auuhhhhmm ...

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  3. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    By default, most windows users seem to run with 100% privilages, 100% of the time. This is a really bad idea. I dual boot linux with at least 1 linux distro. Right now i'm using Kubuntu 14.04, sometimes i'll have 2 or more different distros installed on the same hardrive. Most of the popular 3D games seem to be devloped for Windows, so it's good for that. I haven't been too much into games lately, except for my oldschool NES and SNES games which i prefer to play on the console itself, or an emulator in linux if i dont have the cartridge.

    I have some software for a digital postage scale that requires windows, not that thrilled about that. Never been a fan of how windows handles configurations and preferences. The windows registry is a monstrous cryptic database that's difficult to work on when it gets really trashed. UNIX like systems use human readable configuration files with comments. Command line tools in linux make a lot more sense to me. Linux is built out of many, many small parts that can be isolated and worked on. Windows feels much more like one piece.

    iTunes still doesn't have a build for linux, which i just can't understand. It annoys me to no end having to boot into windows for iTunes. Most well known business software also targets windows, so i use it for that too. microsoft is a spy company tho, they require that you enter information and verify it when you install windows. they also back up the preferences and desktop backgrounds on a remote server somewhere, so if you ever reinstall it again, you have that same stuff again, unless you make a new account.

    when windows gets screwed up with malware its a huge mess. antivirus doesnt help much because the damage to the system is already done. i always wonder why it had to get to that level for the user to notice something was wrong. a lot easier to fix the one problem when it first comes about than when theres hundreds of issues, i don't even know how someone could trust or feel safe on a computer like that !!
     
  4. Moonglow181

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    I can't....so come here and fix it for me!
    LOL

    I do not know shit from shinolah about computers. I am not a technical brain.
    You are.
    So what do we do? Leave the computer altogether....us idiot computer users?
     
  5. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    ive been thinking about purchasing another 1TB hard drive. hard drives are pretty inexpensive. i really have no need for any more storage though, as I can't even fill up the hard drives that i have.

    it would provide more I/O throughput though having another 1TB drive to make a RAID 0 array. can't make up my mind if i'd rather do that, or just purchase a small SSD drive. the SSD drive would be even faster, and almost as cheap since i only really need about 64 gigs for the root partition. (i'd rather do both :D)

    i have another 500gig 2.5" HDD from a laptop in my PC as well, with a 100gig partition that i'm using to exclusively store the bitcoin blockchain.
     
  6. Mizzgreenthumb

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    Mac for writing and web surfing, PC for gaming. I loathe win8, I like win7 and winxp.
     
  7. TheGhost

    TheGhost Auuhhhhmm ...

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    Go for the SSD as a system drive. Amazing speed.

    Just don't fill it up more than half.
     
  8. raysun

    raysun D4N73_666 4861786f72

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    I run Debian with xfce4 and on my other box Fedora with Cinnamon,
    Openbsd as my firewall I tried Freebsd first but in the end stuck with Openbsd,
    I run windows 7 in virtualbox sometimes,
     
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  9. newbie-one

    newbie-one one with the newbiverse

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    On the linux security question mentioned earlier in the thread:


    I have to admit to knowing little about operating systems, especially linux. Nonetheless, my 2 cents.

    The innate security features of linux and the "small herd" immunity have already been mentioned. Beyond that, linux is opensource freeware. Giant corporations don't care about your security and privacy, they operate on a profit motive, and they're only going to protect you to the extent that they have to to keep making money. MS discovers they can make more money by screwing you? They'll do it. And as long as you are dependent on them for updates, it couldn't be easier for them.

    Maybe i'm putting the linux community on a pedestal, but i think they're both tech savvy and have some devotion to privacy and security. In short, i trust the rebels to protect me much more than i trust the empire.
     
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  10. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    well said. linux/unix developers have a certain philosophy, and aren't into sketchiness. the goal is to keep everything as transparent and open as possible. *n?x developers work for the community. personal information has great value on the market and has become an important business model for large software companies. also, there are many distributions and development tools to choose from, so developers (and users) aren't locked into using certain develpment frameworks, ie Microsoft .NET framework. of course a programmer developing on Windows or any other OS can do things the way they choose to do things, but if they're developing for a major company they're gonna be pretty much forced to use w/e crap that company expects, not to mention the licensing agreements companies like that have with other companies/crap producers ;). I don't wanna see linux get too mainstream, but i guess linux/unix has been pretty mainstream for a while, at least since the 1970s in the server world. Some 50% of internet servers run various Linux, the rest run some other UNIX/BSD OS like freeBSD, openBSD, netBSD, Solaris, etc.

    the old HF server ran freeBSD im 99% sure about that. not sure what this one runs. also, something like 98% of supercomputers run linux
     
  11. NurseSteve

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    Does anyone have a solid, factual idea of when Windows 10 will be released?
     
  12. AceK

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    windows 10 would probably come after windows 9, but I think we saw windows 9.x already but it's been so long I don't remember it.

    I expect tablets and more specifically the ARM microprocessor architecture to take a bigger peice of the market in the coming years.
     
  13. ultravio1et

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    linux here on all my devices
     
  14. arthur itis

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    I'm still using Win XP Pro, on a motherboard from around circa 2000.

    I typically wait until I'm backed into a corner before upgrading my hardware. My son even has his own business dealing with computers and has extras lying around the shop, and I'm not jumping on it.

    But someday soon,,, the dam's gonna break, and I'll either grab one of his extras, (before he sells them to someone in bulk), or build something newish.

    I do follow a local linux board, just to get a taste. It just sounds like so much gobbledygeek.
     
  15. meridianwest

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    always owned Macs myself, and i'm strongly biased in favor of them. my experience with them has just been such a high-quality one in comparison with Windows that there's no debate about it.

    my experience with Windows has been at work and at friends' who use it, but i will never buy that nightmare for myself. i don't know how people do it. Macs are simple and straightforward computers to use. they actually make the computer usage experience pleasant, which i can't say goes for Windows. Mac's hardware and software compatibility and intefacing is amazing and 99% of the time problem-free. no crashes, no restarting the computer....no drivers. not to mention Macs do look better, and they're made of more durable materials. MacBook laptops come in metal casing. i also prefer Mac user interface to a Windows one. Mac is more intuitive.

    i've experienced more crashes on a Windows in a single day than i have on my MacBook laptops in their whole lifetime of usage. actually, i can't remember that they ever crashed at all. sometimes running programs that eat up a lot of memory can slow those particular programs down, but that's small stuff compared to the hassle the Windows puts you through. but to each his own, of course.
     
  16. NoxiousGas

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    I'm running win 7 Pro and haven't had any OS crashes in over two years.
    some programs bite it sometimes, especially certain games, but that is usually video related.

    It all really comes down to how you have it configured and how much bullshit is on the system.
     
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  17. arthur itis

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    My P4 running XP Pro hasn't crashed in years, if ever. Before than, W2000 didn't crash either, unless I fouled up something, like messing with the memory timing. I found out that using the defaults in the BIOS for "optimal" configuration solved all of my crashing. Before that, the timing I was using was messing up royally, even during boot, or when trying to shut down or restart.

    But I'm lurking in a linux users group, for the day (if it comes) when I make the jump. I do notice that these linux guys are apparently "geeky" beyond words. I don't know if I'll ever feel comfortable there. It reminds me of when I was into ham radio. Everything anyone talked about there was what "rig" you had (equipment), or how big your antenna was,,lol.
     
  18. JasonHerbalExt

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    Depends. What is your main purpose?
    Game: Windows.
    Coding: Linux
    Designing: Mac
     
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  19. Stalkz

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    Linux. I bounce around from distro to distro.

    My main interest is that I'm nuts about customization in digital environments. After a few years of trying to force and/or fuck windows into being the OS I wanted, I realized I could literally do that with Linux. In the process, I learned to code, and Linux got more and more awesome and user-friendly. I actually prefer GIMP to Photoshop now. I'm not saying PS can't do things GIMP can't, but outside of mass media, I don't think the gap is particularly wide.

    Right now I'm using Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn), Unity edition, running Gnome 3.14, because I get a kick out of making the wrong thing do shit that I want it to.
     
  20. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    personally I think the man pages are one of the best things ever in linux, I wish windows had something like that. it sure does make things easier, especially coding when you need a struct definition or something that belongs to a library your trying to use.

    I don't know what ur supposed to do without man, I guess you have to look for documentation on the Internet, which means I'm gonna have to open a web browser which doesn't display right when its not full screen.

    id love to have an extra tablet that I could play around with linux on, I think it might actually be really fun to learn and code for ... open libraries and stuff. to develop for IOS you need a Mac, then you gotta learn all the APIs that are specific to IOS development (not to mention obj-c) which might not be all that useful anywhere else. not to mention you have to pay Apple $99 a year if you wanna be able to use your app on a real device and not just the simulator. I'm not sure if that's really worth it for somebody like me that more than anything is just looking to fuck around.
     

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