Will Trump Supporters Listen To The Warnings?

I've said this before but I don't think Trump is dumb, he's a smart guy who knows how to appeal to dumb people, and that's what got him elected. But now he's in over his head and has made a joke of the Presidency.

 

I don't know man. I'm sure you've read his recent interviews. I really think he is just plain dumb. If not outright dumb, then at the very least its obvious he doesnt have an ounce of intellectual curiosity or desire to really learn about the world he is now ruling over.

 

Intelligence isn't a uni-dimensional concept. Trump is crafty, highly intuitive, lots of street smarts--but amazingly dumb in some areas relevant to the presidency. What smart man would say "who knew (health care) would be so complicated (Just about every knowledgeable person, Donald). Or express surprise that being President of the United States is more demanding than hosting "The Apprentice"? Or say that people don't ask what caused the Civil War, or speculate that Andrew Jackson would have done a better job than Lincoln in dealing with it? And he seems pretty clueless about how to get a bill through Congress.

 

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[SIZE=11pt]Antifaschistische Aktion[/SIZE][SIZE=11pt], Antifascistische Aktie, Antifascist Action or Antifascistisk Aktion[/SIZE] — abbreviated as Antifa (German/Dutch/English) or AFA (Scandinavian) — is a far-left, extra-parliamentary, communist, anti-fascist network in Germany, Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark, Norway and the United States of America whose stated goal is to "smash fascism in all its forms"Wiki

[SIZE=11pt]For fuck sake 6 you dig up some extremist group as an example, and I’d have no problem calling them out of touch and ignorant – BUT are you saying you think Trump is also an extremist idiot or trying to imply (once again) that ‘ALL’ left wingers are extremists?[/SIZE]

[SIZE=11pt]I could dig up loads of pictures of racist Trump supporters does that make ALL right wingers racists? [/SIZE]

[SIZE=11pt]This is crap and what’s more I think you know that its crap – so why do it?[/SIZE]

 

[SIZE=11pt]As mentioned before I find it difficult to comment on events because the events are insane – and the biggest insanity is that Trump’s base still seem to think this admin is doing a fine job.[/SIZE]

 

Ok cool just making sure. There were some other members on Hip who were under the impression that Antifa members were undercover goons paid by Bannon and/or the Trump admin to make leftists appear violent and hostile. Glad you could clairify that for them by pointing out that they are an extremist left organization. Because they sure as hell won't take my word for it.

 

If you're talking about me I said, when I first heard about them, that I didnt know anything about them, that they could be anyone. That maybe they could even be agent provocateurs.

Since then I have researched them, I have heard a first hand account from a member here who was involved with them, I have been to their website, I have a clearer idea of who they are. Time to let this rest lol.

 

Oh come on you two are you that completely ignorant of reality and history?

I mean you would have to be extremely ill informed not to realize that every side has had its extremists - left right, religions etc all have had them – where the fuck did you think terrorism came from for example?

I really think you lads need to start reading and studying a bit more

The problem as I’ve had to point out several times to people like 6 is that trying to imply that because there are extremists on the left ALL left wingers are extremists IS DISHONEST.

And now 6 is going to whimper ‘I didn’t mean that’ but sorry mate you have form you keep doing it and I having to keep pulling you up on it.

Now there are these things called libraries that have reference areas in them you might want to go and check one out…

 

I never said all left wingers are violent extremists. The only dishonesty I'm seeing is coming from you. Where are you getting this?

You mad, brah?

 

I'm still fuzzy about what they "gain" from destroying windows at the MLK building. What do they "gain" from attacking old farts wearing MAGA hats? They'll be dead soon anyway. It's just weird the seething hatred we see from these supposed "anarchists" (who only seem to attack 1 side instead of both).

I'm just so confussssssed

 

Trump has fired James B. Comey as the director of the FBI.

The reason given for the firing is the FBI acknowledged that only a “small number” of more than 49,000 “potentially relevant” emails found on Anthony Weiner’s laptop had been forwarded from Clinton deputy Huma Abedin to Weiner, her husband, not hundreds or thousands as Comey had stated. The FBI said just two of those messages contained classified information.

He fired the man who made him President. The dismissal comes as the FBI is investigating any Russian meddling in the 2016 election, and any Russian ties to Trump associates. But I'm sure that's just a coincidence, right?

 

No.

The answer to the question posed in the thread title is no. If Trump supporters can't see the writing on the wall after Trump fires the director of the FBI two days before he is set to testify in front of the Senate..then no.

This is some seriously obvious corruption , like Trump is basically taking a frying pan full of corruption and hitting America's head with it, and people still dont see.

 

I don't know. Perhaps they do not want to see. I have no other explanation for that to even tell myself.

 

I'm sure Trump supporters wish they'd drop this "whole damn Russia thing" anyway. I mean, what's the big deal, right?

 

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I can point to many examples of your MO, someone would just have to read the alt-right thread.

But you are just following in a long tradition of establishment and corporate American propaganda going back to the 1920’s of portraying any left wing view as extreme communism.

There was this from Albert Canwell who was chair of the California state un-American committee in the 1940’s–

“If someone insists there is discrimination against Negroes in this country, or that there is inequality of wealth, there is every reason to believe that person is a communist”

Now I know someone is going to say oh that was years ago - but actually to argue that inequality needs to be tackled through universal healthcare cover, decent welfare, living wages and progressive taxation has got me called a communist extremist several times here over the last few years.

Anyway I think some people that support Trump think in that black and white way - left bad - right good - and would accept many things others would warn against such as the lessening of checks and balances on power and brining the ‘left leaning’ media to heel.

LOL Oh I’m furious and I think anyone looking at what Trump is doing to the US would be as well.

 

I don't believe everyone left of center is a communist, or advocates for violence against their opposition.

But if the vast majority of progressives continue to support domestic terrorist groups like Black Lives Matter or Antifa (which stands for anti-First Amendment). Then I would say that the left has a violent fascism problem that they need to straighten out.

Yes that was years ago. However, this is what the voices of some of the modern left sound like:

Drexel professor wants white genocide: https://uspoliticsinfo.com/2016/12/26/white-communist-professor-advocates-white-genocide/

CNN commentator calls Trump victory a WhiteLash http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/11/us/obama-trump-white-backlash/index.html

The Hijab (where in many countries, will get women who don't wear it caned or thrown in prison) is a form of feminist empowerment https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/03/15/hijab-becomes-symbol-resistance-feminism-age-trump/98475212/

Building walls is bad. But building human walls to block traffic is good:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-27/about-whiteness-uc-berkeley-students-segregate-campus-block-bridge-human-wall
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/01/18/black-lives-matter-protesters-block-sf-bay-bridge/78984818/

 

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LOL as I say that is your MO –

‘Not all left wingers are extremists but if just one left winger supports anything I think is extremist then ALL left wingers must be extremists – but to say once again I don’t think all left wingers are extremists it’s just that if any of them supports anything I think of as extremist then ALL left wingers must be extremists but let me repeat I don’t think all left wingers are extremists it’s just that if just one of them supports anything I think is extremist then ALL left wingers are extremists…..’

And on and on ad nauseam

It’s a very old con game, dishonest but old.

 

I think Antifa is supposed to stand for Anti-fascism, although it might as well stand for "Anti-First Amendment". I doubt that "the vast majority of progressive Americans continue to support domestic terrorist groups, any more than the vast majority of right-wing Americans support domestic terrorists of the right--but some do.
https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/testimony/the-terrorist-threat-confronting-the-united-states
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/opinion/the-other-terror-threat.html
http://www.newsweek.com/2016/02/12/right-wing-extremists-militants-bigger-threat-america-isis-jihadists-422743.html
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/445170/anti-semitic-incidents-united-states-hate-crimes-religion-donald-trump-alt-right-gaza-war
http://www.voanews.com/a/us-hate-crimes-rising-particularly-in-big-cities/3756604.html
To be clear, the left is not the progressive left and the progressive left is not Antifa. You should be able to understand this, since you've tried to dissociate yourself from other figures on the Alt Right like Richard Spencer, I assume the Stormers would also not be your cup of tea.