Wicca = vegetarians?

Plants don't have a nervous system - don't feel pain - the idea of them suffering is a moot point.
The amount of plants necessary to feed a cow could feed several people, therefore a plant based diet is a more efficent use of resources (and making the best of bad
situation should plants suffer)
Well then what are we supposed to eat, rocks?

Can you tell I've been answering this same question for nearly four years?

 

Im pagan, not wiccan, and rarely come around for fear of disagreeing with someone.

However, I will give my take on eating meat or anything else - certainly its a topic every pagan or wiccan should examine for themselves to see whats right, no matter what the final outcome. Eating is an intentional act, and every intentional act is a magickal one as well. Eating is something everyone does, even buddah ate a hempseed now and then!

So heres my two cents... eating, be it meat or veg, is an exchange of energy with the earth. We are all part of it, and its how it is meant to be. The mother earth sustains us, and in turn we will eventually return to it and sustain her. Just wait, everyone does - its a fact.

What one chooses to eat is ones own choice, and knowing that it is a sacred gift of life from the goddess is the way to view it. Thats why dining has such ritual in every culture, and food is given as offerings in many cases.

Eating meat is ones choice, and there are many points on both sides. I admire those who can be vegetarian, but its not for me.

Down here, some pagans I know only eat meat they hunt themselves. Often the only thing they have to eat is what they get themselves, but not all of us have the means to live that way. They are a very natural folk and hardly the pentacles and eyeliner types! lol

basically, to each their own

 

I am a Pagan and not Wiccan however it is statements like yours that need to stop.

If you want to tell other Wiccans that they are not Wiccan because they eat meat, then I recommend that you look at Christians who use the same kind of argument. Some Catholics don't think Protestants and Christian, some Protestants think that Catholics are Christian, and some Christians don't think any church they don't agree with aren't Christian.

Who the hell are you to say someone isn't Wiccan?

Let's be realistic here. Wicca, while certain elements are ancient, for the most part is from the 50s (ish). Modern Wicca is a mish mosh of several things including and not limited to Masonic ritual, Golden Dawn rituals, Celtic folklore, and so on.

So I want you to tell me exactly WHICH people are Wiccan and which aren't?

Now maybe I'm coming on strong here, but we pagans, and I mean that in the general sense, cannot afford to divide over stupid crap like this. Personally speaking I think about 70% of what most pagans do is bullshit. But you know what? I will NEVER go there with them. The reason why is because they are my allies and I am their ally. Sometimes I learn things from people I disagree with. Hell many people disagree with me and think I am full of crap.

You are going to have your opinions. But never ever tell someone that they aren't Wiccan, Pagan, or whatever when that is what they practice. How would you feel if I told you weren't a true Wiccan? There are many of people who wear pentagrams, and wear black, and listen to death metal who are very serious. Some of these people may even know more than you. Some of these people may some day be the key that makes Wicca and Paganism grow beyond our imaginations, and in turn you may some day turn your back on Wicca.

So in other words don't be so quick to judge.

 

As long as a living entity doesnt feel pain through a nervous system like human beings then its okay to eat them? People with lost limbs have reported feeling sensations in the area of the missing limb so does a nervous system really have the final say on feeling? Plus you can kill an animal without it feeling any pain making the argument of feeling pain in killing them "a moot point".

I agree with you. And no rocks for me please, I'd rather eat animals and plants.

No need to be rude sistar i do have a mind body soul and spirit I was just trying to build with you and the rest of the community.

 

Good wise-dome

 

the origins of paganism are filled with stories of burnt offerings to the gods - burnt offerings being meat, not roasted carrots, lol

animal sacrifices are leftover traditions, old memories of the times in which the gods walked hand in hand with man and feasted together - humans giving thanks for the bounty the gods provided, and the gods giving thanks for the love and energy they received from humans

no harm in eating meat if one is pagan, especially if it is done with thanks and intent

(now what about these 161 laws of Wicca? lol, i thought there were only seven - the hermetic laws, combined with the law of "an it harm none, do what thou wilt"......oops, perhaps that's pagan, not Wiccan - no offense )

 

I think this thread has made me an athiest.

 

Isn't this what communion is? Communion is eating with the gods, and I have done this for every solstice and equinox for about 17 years.

What irked me was the original poster had the audacity to say that certain people weren't Wiccan because they ate meat. I invite him to explain why he has the authority to make that kind of pronouncement.

 

it must be one of those 161 laws

 

Yeah I could do without that. Darned free thinking!

 

oh i know - that free thinking gets ya every time!

 

Firstly, I don't consider myself Wiccan... but rather somewhere in between Wiccan and Druid, but, from what I know of it, the Wiccan Rede is not so much an 'official' religious text, as the Bible is to Christians, for example, but literature that alot of Wiccans choose to abide by, it is not binding in any way,

 

The only thing sad is that rude arrogance

Your not telling me nothing new.

If you learned how to read a persons post correctly you would just answer the question.

Whats your point?

OK? Well since your obviously not that intelligent or humble just forget the question please.