Why You Can't Call Me an Anti-Semite

The situation in the ME is a direct result of zionism. Before that, it was mostly just tribal conflicts which worked themselves out. This is still a tribal part of the world. With the formation of Israel, they cut right through tribal borders.

Israel is an antagonist country. It constantly bickers with it's neighbors and flys military missions over them to prove it's superiority. It has carried out bombings and assasinations as a matter of state policy.

Jews as Moses knew them no longer exist. What is left behind is an ancient belief system thats been carried forward by converts from a white warrior race .

http://www.apfn.org/THEWINDS/library/khazars.html

What would you call a country that is ruled by this warrior mentality to this day?

Israel.

As for a Jewish homeland, pure zionist rubbish.

No nation should ever be formed around a religion. While zionism isn't a religion, it has attached itself to one. Now it wears the Jewish identity like it owns it.

Its a lie.


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Sorry, but your propaganda is a bit one sided. You neglect to mention all the terrorist attacks on Israel since it's establishment and when you mentioned how the Jews and Arabs lived in peace together before it's establishment you failed to mention:

Safed 1834; Petach tikva March, 1886; The ‘1929 Hebron Massacre’, August 1929; The Tiberias Massacre, April 19, 1936; The Jaffa Massacre, April 19, 1936. I could go on but seeing as we are in the year 1936, let’s see how peaceful relations between the Jews and Arabs were just in the months of April and May of that year:

April 15, 1936: 2 Jews in Tulkarm killed by Arabs.
April 19: 9 Jews in Jaffa killed by Arabs.
April 20: 5 Jews in Jaffa killed by Arabs.
April 22: Jewish woman in Jaffa killed by Arabs.
April 26: Jewish houses in Nazareth and Beit Shean burned by Arabs.
April 26: An Arab mob beats up Jewish boy in Jerusalem.
April 28: 4 Jewish farm workers in Migdal injured by Arabs.
April 29: Arabs burn down a Jewish forest in Balfouriya.
April 29: Arab mob forms in Jerusalem, but British police break it up before Jews harmed.
May 1: 2 Jews in Haifa killed by Arabs.
May 3: Arab mob burns down Jewish timber yard in Haifa.
May 4: Jewish orchards in Mishmar Ha-Emek burned by Arabs.
May 4: Arabs destroy 200 acres of wheat in Ramat David.
May 5: 500 orange trees uprooted in Tel Mond by Arabs.
May 7: Arabs fire on Jewish bus in Beit Dagan.
May 10: Arabs burn crops and haystacks in Givat Ada.
May 10: Arabs uproot newly planted olive grove in Zikhron Yaakov.
May 11: Arabs burn Jewish crops in Ramat David.
May 12: Arabs burn threshing floor in Zikhron Yaakov.
May 13: 2 elderly Jews murdered by Arabs in Old City.
May 13: Jewish shops in Haifa stoned by Arabs.
May 13: More orchards burned in Mishmar Ha-Emek.
May 16: 3 Jews in Jerusalem shot dead by Arabs while coming out of a cinema.
May 19: Arabs kill a Jew in the Old City of Jerusalem.
May 20: 2 Jews wounded during Arab attack on bus.
May 24: Arabs severely wound a Jewish guard at Majd el Krum.
May 25: Arabs kill a Jew at Hebrew University

You must have some good explanation for leaving these things out when you said that the trouble in the ME is all the fault of Zionism.

 

Xe-xo, is this immediate discussion trying to make history real for the day or for the times? You sure don't wait for my responses about the Holy-land delusion. Is it that you are afraid that the influential Muslims in the region may truly want a piece of the conceptual historical development of that Land. They deserve the western holy land as well.

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The answer was in Egypt; but the U.S. is more interested in the 'Exodus'. Codaleeza Rice, I forgive you.

 

Excuse me, but who took the land from whom?

It couldn't be the same white skinned European invaders that the American indian got slaughtered by, could it?

I'm not denying that the above happened, but you have to understand what started it. And what perpetuates it as a matter of STATE policy.

The Palestinians were there first. If you wonder why they're so very angry, ask an American indian.


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Pardon me but if you will notice all those things I mentioned happened before the establishment of the nation of Israel and to indigenous Jews. Zionism did not start these acts.

As for the Palestinians being there first, that cannot really be compared the Native Americans seeing as most of the Arabs living in that area had only been there since 1922 and were not indigenous.

 

http://www.mideastweb.org/zionism.htm


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And?

 

There have always been "Palestinians" in Palestine. There have always been Jews there too. Thousands of years worth. The did get along considerably better before the zionists arrived.

Did you notice that modern zionism didn't start until 1891? This is the new kid on the block. These people are the usurpers of Judaism. They maintain power be creating threats and then offering protection from them. Its no different than what organized crime does.

This agenda of displacement started decades before Israel became a state. It has been a long and slow and steady death march for the Arab populations there ever since. They've been run off THEIR land. They can't travel freely. They are in constant danger of arrest and abuse from Israeli security forces.

They are an oppressed people. Read what someone from South Africa thinks of the Palestinian situation. They've been there, done that.
http://www.endtheoccupation.org.za/Eddie_Makue_UN_Address.html

Zionists are raiders. Dropped right in the middle of people who don't want to become their next target.

Israel is a racist apartheid state. From day 1.

It will never know peace because it is what it is.



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This shit makes me sick, We need that country, it's ours we bought it, we support it, we control it and it's the only place in the Middle East that we can call the shots. It's our little staging area where we currently have billions in advanced weapons just waiting to be used. Who do you think maintains those weapons? Not us, it's all private industry. Keep on hating and in 200 years it won't change one bit.

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Now you're getting the hang of it.

Zionism has plans for expansion.

Worldwide.

It controls the money supply. It controls credit. It controls a large part of the media. It controls the federal government of the United States. It controls where our military goes and for what reasons. It also controls the election process.

Ever play connect the dots?

The image that forms is not a pleasant one.

And it all started with a movement born before Israel was born

Israel was their first victory. They've had many since.

Looks Jewish. Acts Jewish.

NOT Jewish.


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Well what do you expect from a people who have been killed for no reason since pretty much the begginning of their existence? Business was the only place that we could make a living for the past 1000 years, if not more. if your family had been repairing cars for 1500 years and were motivated, don't you think they would control a whole hell of a lot of car repair shops by now? Also, we were not aiming to take over anywhere when the Romans slaughtered us, when the greeks slaughtered us, when the babylonians slaughtered us... we were just minding our own damned business in the holy land, where we originiated. Yeah, current Israel is a lot different, but please don't say that this is hundreds or thousands of years old, because it isn't, and the facts show that for the most part, over the last 1000+ years, we have been just as innocent/guilty as the arabs/muslims that have been killing us.

The Mushroom Man

 

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Wouldn’t that make them "Palestinians" Also?

Yes

I’m not sure how killing Jews before the Zionists arrived can be considered, getting along better, perhaps you can explain that. Do you mean that since the Jews did not respond in kind, by killing the Arabs that were killing them, that the situation was some how better?

Why yes I did and that is why I pointed out to you that Arabs started killing Jews before 1891. That is why I mentioned both Safed in 1834 and Petach tikva in March, 1886 both of which predate 1891.

This is true in about 1922 the Arabs began to flow into Palestine to dispossess the Jews and run them off of THEIR land. Frankly I’m surprised you know about that. Anyway that means most of the “Palestinians” that the nation of Israel dispossessed were new comers themselves and had no long standing claim to the land as you suggest.

Next the “Palestinians” continued to show “hospitality” to the Jews living in the Palestine Area in a spirit of “getting along” by killing Jews every chance they got, for over a hundred years before the establishment of the nation of Israel and for over 60 years before the start of modern Zionism.

 

The past is done with. I'm not going to dwell on it. Neither should any of you.

The fact remains that zionism is behind the state of Israel. It commits state sponsored acts of violence against civilian populations. In the modern day.

And this isn't about Jews. Its about zionism, and the corruption of Judaism. Jews are caught in the middle just like the Germans were. If you want to let this movement go forward, you will be as guilty as those who helped the nazis ascend to power.

I have the ability to stay out of the way of whats coming.

Most of you are not going to be so lucky. You got friends and family and roots. Gotta stay put and accept what comes.

And it will.

I'm leaving the country in the near future. You'll likely never hear from me again. Why not entertain the possibility that I might be right?

When I go silent, you'll know its real close.




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It's been said that those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

But okay, if you want to talk modern day how about these from 2008?

July 22, 2008: Sixteen people were wounded when a man drove a bulldozer into a bus and four other vehicles in central Jerusalem. The attack was an attempted copycat of an earlier attack on Jerusalem’s Jaffa Road on July 2, 2008. The terrorist was shot dead by police.

July 2, 2008: An Arab resident of Jerusalem deliberately drove a bulldozer into pedestrians and vehicles in central Jerusalem, overturning and flattening a number of buses and cars. Three people were killed and 66 injured in the attack.

April 9, 2008: Two Israeli civilians were killed and two wounded when Palestinian terrorists attacked an Israeli-controlled border crossing where fuel is piped into Gaza. The attack at the Nahal Oz depot was carried out by members of various terrorist movements, including the Popular Resistance Committees.

March 6, 2008: Eight men, seven of them teenagers, were killed when a Palestinian gunman entered the Merkaz HaRav Yeshiva in Jerusalem and opened fire. The terrorist also wounded nine in the attack before he was killed at the scene.

February 4, 2008: A 73-year-old woman was killed and 40 people were wounded when a suicide bomber blew himself up in a shopping center in the southern city of Dimona. A second bomber was shot by a police officer who noticed him reaching for his explosive belt. Both Hamas’ armed wing, Izaddin Kassam, and Fatah's armed wing, the Aksa Martyrs Brigades, claimed responsibility for the attack.

January 24, 2008: Two terrorists entered the Mekor Hayim High School Yeshiva in Kfar Etzion, south of Jerusalem, and stabbed two students. The terrorists were killed by two of the counselors in the room. The Izaddin al-Kassam's Martyrs Brigades, the Hamas military wing, claimed responsibility for the attack.

January 24, 2008: Rami Zoari, 20, from Beersheba, a border police officer, was killed and another female officer was seriously wounded after terrorists approached the entrance to Shuafat refugee camp in northern Jerusalem and opened fire on a group of Israelis. The Battalions of Struggle and Return, a previously anonymous offshoot of Fatah's Al Aksa Martyrs' Brigades, claimed responsibility for the attack.

 

Nothing new. This has been going on for decades out of the public eye.

Now its an eyesore.

Now maybe things can change.



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Nor are you who you think you are.