Why is mescaline so scarce?

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  1. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    Yea I'm just hearing about this and also fresh ginger as this guy flow has been saying for a while, another poster was talking about a study on its effects on upset stomach etc.
     
  2. polymer

    polymer Senior Member

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    depends on which route you take; there are several methods to synth phenethylamines. the trimethylbenzylalcohol method is about a 6 step process.

    I could actually pull that one off; but like you said, synthing mesc isn't very cost effective.
     
  3. polymer

    polymer Senior Member

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    I think you're forgetting that LSD decomposes very readily; it's much easier/more feasible to make the more stable al-lad analogue.

    but of course, all the people who buy acid have access to gc/ms, as if it's a gram scale used to measure out weed.
     
  4. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    LMFAO, o yea it's right in that drawer next to the gram scale.
     
  5. polymer

    polymer Senior Member

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    shit, I wish I had a gc/ms, but I don't have 150 grand laying around
     
  6. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    O that's nothing man just synth 10 grams of L and you can buy one of those at wal-mart.
    Actually, fuck walmart, shit would probably break dam quick lol.
     
  7. moka9x9

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    LSA
    d-lysergic acid amide

    LSA is a psychedelic with a potency 1/10 to 1/30th that of LSD, I have several Heavenly Blue Morning Glorys in my back yard, and I have another handfull of seeds ready to be grown.

    LSD
    d-lysergic acid diethylamide

    LSD is a power psychedelic with an extremely high potency, so high infact, doses are messured in micrograms, and an ounce of LSD can produce 1,000 blotters easily.

    Oral LSD Dosages
    Threshold20 ug Light25 - 75 ug Common50 - 150 ug Strong150 - 400 ug Heavy400 + ug LD50 (Lethal Dose*)12,000 ug
    ty erowid :)
     
  8. polymer

    polymer Senior Member

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    1,000?

    try 567,000 . (1 ounce = ~28.35 gm., @ 50mics per tab, avg. strength of white fluff blotters)
     
  9. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

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    peyote is legal to grow and sell here inmy state in australia, strangely. fuckin expensive though
     
  10. Dazed4now

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    mescaline is scarce cause all the hippies and indians picked america dry
     
  11. Schlüßelberg

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    And then there's that wonderful precursor 3,4,5 (trans) Cinnamic acid, which is not to be found anywhere, for obvious reasons.

    Working with Lithium Aluminum Hydride and diethyl ether aren't all that difficult; hell, the Grignard reaction with mag-chloride dried ether was the first catalyzed reaction I learned. (IIRC; twer 28 or so years ago)
     
  12. polymer

    polymer Senior Member

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    nah, they're not hard to work with; just can't be careless, and have a wet (with water) workspace, or in the case of ether, open flame, but that goes without saying. Grignard reactions are so immensely useful, can use them to synth almost anything.

    and if I'm not mistaken, all the 3,4,5-methyl compounds are quite watched like dimethylamine
     
  13. eman resu

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    Yea 2c-b actually is a type of synthetic mescaline along with some other rc's
     
  14. polymer

    polymer Senior Member

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    those are some loosely-related analogues, tri-substituted phenethylamines most of them with two methoxy groups, and a halide.
    mescaline has three methoxy groups.
     
  15. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    I don't like when people say that man, 2c-b is not synthetic mescaline. Although it's an analog, they are not the same chemical and they have very different properties. Saying it's synthetic mescaline perpetuates misinformation; synthetic mescaline is mescaline that was synthesized in a lab, versus natural mescaline that was made in a cactus in nature. IDK how into the 'scene' you are but I see lots doing that, saying they have mescaline to offer to all kinds of people who don't question and just eat it... then I question it and they kinda like go "uhh uhh uhh yea well it's actually uhh 2c-i cough cough money and ignorance i mean, uhh, love and light"
     
  16. GTA83

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    So noone here got in on the mesc that went around in 2003?
     
  17. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    What tour?
     
  18. GTA83

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    Bonnaroo I personally obtained some, it was for sure legit, was going for 20 each or 10 for 120 which is a rediculous price considering the high cost/low yeild I have been hearing about making it.
     
  19. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    bonnaroo is filled with rippers, so forgive me if I don't believe you lol. I recognize your nick though, so I figure you come to these forums a lot you know mescaline doesn't come in dots and is dosed at the lowest around 300 milligrams? Takes pills the size of big vicodins pretty much.


    Everytime I was offered "mescaline" at roo, it was microdots or a tiny amount of powder in an empty gelcap.
     
  20. GTA83

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    Ya I know, this stuff was neither, it was long fine sharp-like brown crystals in a large horse pill, dose seemed like 350-400 prolly. It also had all the characteristics, sickness after one hour, 4 hour peak, 12 hour time frame, and around a 2 week afterglow. I have also done many Rc's and mescaline in cactus form, and it was most similar for sure to the effect of the cactus. I kicked my ass for not getting more though.
     
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