Why is mescaline so scarce?

Discussion in 'Cacti Delecti' started by LSDawson, Mar 13, 2005.

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  1. eat_some_LSD

    eat_some_LSD Senior Member

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    Not really...San Pedro and Peruvian Torch are actually both more accesible than savia.

    I find the experience to be rather over-hyped...it's definitely enjoyable, but 450 mgs still doesn't hold a candle to LSD or 2-CE...
     
  2. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    I meant peyote is hard to find.. I really don't know anyone who can get it besides canadians and people way down south...
     
  3. MagicSwhirlingShip

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    i can get peyote in CT. Its kind of rare and when it comes around its expensive. Ive never tried it but its defently there.
     
  4. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    lol.. well I can get it at something like 50 bucks per living 5 year old plant around here... I'm straight, I don't want to grow them, I want to eat them, and 200+ dollars for one trip just isn't right. Nobody has ever offered me dried buttons for a reasonable price... at Bonnaroo some guy offered me peyote tea he said for 25 bucks he'd give me a dose that would have had me flying... the only thing I had to offer him were my shoes though... and I really like my torn up hemp adidas lol.
     
  5. Schlüßelberg

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    A friend of mine picked up a kilo of dried Peruvian Torch a few months back for, if I remember right, 300 clams. He gave another friend 20 grams, and my friend reported a righteous buzz, but the nausea was a problem for him as far as it interfered with achieving the state he wanted to be in.

    There is simply NO substitute for Hoffman's Psychedelic Elixar. None. Bop 'till ya drop with the tried and true.

    Of course, my bud says he hasn't visited the mushroom world for a while, since sterile growing conditions in his corner of the universe aren't achievable. So it goes.

    BTW, 2ce's, PM me. Seems we think alike on a lot of things.
     
  6. tumbledownDNA

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    man now i have to get some... mescaline actually just came around in cactus form... these kids are selling capsules of the dried plant material they got off line or something. im sure its the real thing one kid took it out and it tasted bitter as hell. you have to take like 12 to trip and 15 to trip hard. from those who've taken it they say its a really hard trip but way more mellow than acid and the body buzz feels like jello. i hope i can get my hands on some.
     
  7. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    Do it up man.. my friends were telling me 2ce made them feel like jello. Actually, "melty" was the word heh.
     
  8. timeoutofmind

    timeoutofmind So Many Roads...

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  9. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    Finally found some dried buttons crushed into powder. Peyote I mean. Can't wait to sample it.
     
  10. Schlüßelberg

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    Let us know what you think, bro.
     
  11. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    I most definitely will.
     
  12. citrus_seas

    citrus_seas Senior Member

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    mescaline isn't scarce at all, here. i live about 25 minutes away from a native american reserve. they have all kinds of it there
     
  13. nesta

    nesta Banned

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    just ordered some peruvian torch, personally. can't wait, but i'm a little cautious about it. i wish i could get a purer extracted version of it....its supposed to be tough making a cactus extract though.....perhaps i'll dry it and put it in jello. i've heard that works well for masking the taste, and it would be easier to down than a bunch of capsules, and i can't fathom eating it like corn on the cob!
     
  14. Schlüßelberg

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    The capsule route isn't particularly elegant, and just grinding it up and eating it is no better than capping it.

    The Handbook of Chemistry and Physics says mesc is soluble in ethanol. Might be a start.

    I'm not a fan of the "purge and learn" school. Vomiting just isn't fun for me. It doesn't have to be that way. All that plant material sitting in your gut while your trying to attain a +3 just ain't fun to me. The extracts are much more benign, IMO.

    OF course, LSD is the best molecule, but I don't know where to find it, so...

    Maybe I should cultivate some Boomers?
     
  15. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    :Sigh:, again the thread says mescaline, not mescaline containing cactii. Again, Mescaline is rarely produced for the underground drug market because it is a low yield high dosage substance.
     
  16. Schlüßelberg

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    Exactly, 2 ces. And while it's a fairly easy synthesis, the cost of the precursors eats up any profit. And we both know how important profit is to dealers. Not Hippies. Dealers.

    Also, can't have stuff out there that makes people flash (do y'all use that word? means puke.) Other than opioids, of course. With them, it's expected.

    Also, it just, in the grande scheme of things, isn't very sexy. Mescaline, you have to work for your epiphanies. Unless you have It's a Beautiful Day on the turntable.
     
  17. jesikhaviolet

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    its just like acid, but weaker, so you take more.
    i can't come by it anymore. my very good friend and dealer recently got in a lot of trouble and is laying low for a while, never to return to the drug scene. that's who i've got it from in the past
     
  18. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    I wish more people understood this really simple concept. No matter how many times people say it on here though, there's always someone who is like "ya rite meskaleen is ezy to get, i get microdots of it all the tyme."

    Yea that's what sucks about most of the phens IMO.
     
  19. TokeTrip

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    I've only been able to get peyote once, and I payed $40 each, for 10 buttons. I had sold a few (3 ounces) of weed that same day, so I had a shade over $1000, and I was in a pretty loose mood (i.e. right after a paycheck, etc.). I'd never tried peyote/mescaline-cacti before, and it seemed like a good thing to do once; it turned out to be great. Best trip of my life. I'd trade a sheet of acid for another 10 buttons, to put it in perspective. I've never seen it around town since, but I ask a lot. Go figure. Shrooms are much cheaper (and I grow some, and it's reasonably easy, once you have a glovebox).

    If you want a slightly cheaper, slightly-less-cool-than-peyote experience, go out and buy a 12 inch cutting of san pedro. Notch out the needles (those carrot skinners work great) and peel off the skin. Take the cactus, chop & grind. Soak in an 2 part ethanol, 1 part water solution. Make sure the lid is closed. Repeat 2-3 more times. Strain out the pulp, and you have a liquid. Heat it to 150*C, a fume hood / fan might not be a bad idea, I personally have one of those stove hot-air puller things. You should be left with some nasty goo. Of course, concentrations vary, so some enhancers are in order. I suggest syrian rue seeds. 3-5g of syrian rue, with your mescaline goo will send you pretty close to the moon (peyote experience). Of course, your exp may differ, and something is special about peyote... so... yeah. Some people say peruvian torch contains more mescaline; I wouldn't know. Give it a shot, it's cheap.
     
  20. ihavenoideawhatsgoin

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    Is Peyote legal in canada?
     
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