Why is being a virgin an insult?

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Gravity, May 30, 2008.

  1. praxiskepsis

    praxiskepsis ha!

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    Sure. But that's how it's always been. Always will be.

    Transgression is open to anyone who takes delight in risk.
     
  2. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    I personally find your use of the word "retarded" to be insulting.

    You dumb virgin.
     
  3. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    sex hasn't always been tabboo. mostly just since the onslaught of patriarchal property systems. how funny that you guys realls bit yourselves in the asses with that one.
     
  4. mystical_shroom

    mystical_shroom acerbic

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    I did not read this whole thread.. People still use "virgin" in the sense of insulting someone, thought that was only in the 80's that people did that....People get with the century and start using foreplay and second base as insults...

    Virgins rule..And so do whores...Everyone wins...
     
  5. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    actually i think virgin is particularly insulting when you are using it to refer to drinks...
     
  6. mystical_shroom

    mystical_shroom acerbic

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    What about "Bloody Mary".. I find that insulting to women who are menstruating...
     
  7. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    LMAO. What if your name is MAry too. Fab.
     
  8. Jimmy P

    Jimmy P bastion of awesomeness

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    so a virgin bloody mary would be pretty much the most offensive drink one could get?
     
  9. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    And also the worst drink, non alcoholic AND a shitty rip of the caesar? sucks to be you!
     
  10. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    bloody mary's have been around longer. british thing, i think. not necessarily (that anyone can prove) referring to bloody mary, the queen who slaughtered so many people.
     
  11. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    HAHA. Im just teasing. I have no idea when/how they came about ;)
     
  12. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    there's never a wrong time for a random bit of information i've never used before.
     
  13. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    Not at all. In fact Lode thrives those times :D
     
  14. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    there a personal favorite of mine.
     
  15. praxiskepsis

    praxiskepsis ha!

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    The incest taboo might date from Neanderthals.

    So, no. It seems sexual taboos are quintessentially human.

    But what is also quintessentially human is the festival, insurrections, and war: when those taboos are temporarily lifted.

    And patriarchal property systems predate humanity in most mammals.
     
  16. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    not so much. though, yes, the incest taboo is not that which i'm referring to. i'm referring to the so-called destruction of human civilization by "allowing" women to have sex where they choose.

    not all pre-modern societies were patriarchal in property, the matriarchal cultural structures were very successful, as were those societies in which both males and female could own property. in such cases, sexual freedom for women was much more than norm than monogamy.
     
  17. praxiskepsis

    praxiskepsis ha!

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    I do acknowledge variations.

    But notice that men were also never entirely free to have sex. Only to transgress norms with milder punishment.
     
  18. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    it's true. in matriarchal societies, they could spawn as many children as they liked without having to put for the effort in raising them. their children were raised by the woman's family and provided for by the men of that family. property passed along through the females, which makes awesome sense, since women were able to know who their children were for SURE, whereas there's no real proof that any given child was any particular males. this granted women a great deal more sexual freedom, since their virginity and monogamy didn't have to be jealously gaurded to ensure the property progression through the male line. you also didn't get nuisance behaviors like the mother in law problem (on both sides) and t0o many hens in the henhouse as happen frequently when a new woman is brought into the household.

    i know this for a fact, because despite my best efforts to be rational, there's no woman EVER who's been able to stand against the united alpha front of myself, my mother and my sister. my poor brothers. even when we're nice, we scare them away.
     
  19. praxiskepsis

    praxiskepsis ha!

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    Um. I know what you're saying.

    Though in anthropological circles the idea of matriarchal societies is pretty much defunct. They call it some other term which escapes me.

    There still exist societies in which property is passed on through the female lineage. Those are still a far cry from "matriarchal" in the sense that patriarchal is patriarchal.
     
  20. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    well, right, but what you carry on your back is pretty much yours. there's no denying that might makes right in most places.
     
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