ive already said i dont shoplift so i dunno who your post was directed at. but if you dont think a £1 million a day profit isnt a bit excessive then i guess u never will. big profitmongering companys like that is half the reason the worlds so fucked, so if someone dosnt wanna support them and just steal from them instead i dont see why thats a cause for concern. and yeah, i class a million pound perday profit as stealing. just cus its not against the law dont make it morally right. my hands would feel clean shoplifting from them, they woulnt feel clean making a million quid a day though, someones obviously gettin ripped off and over charged, or am i wrong??
if shoplifting from big corps raises prices so much that it hurts the consumer...than that should allow smaller businesses back into the picture. I mean, low prices due to making purchases in unbelievable quantity is what gives big corps thier (unfair) advantage over small business. If it means that people lose jobs, than that also means the big company is at least declining slightly, and maybe some jobs will open up in smaller business where those same people can be treated with more respect and feel like they're actually a part of something. I mean, the less corruption, the better, right? Incredible profits allows company execs to hold political influence in the form of donations, etc. and will always play the game to their own advantage, not yours(the consumer.) communism may be dark, but capitalism is all green... but then again, so was Robin Hood, the hero of the people and the enemy of Wal-mart. I havent really stolen anything in a long time, and don't plan on it any time soon. and i don't really know if taking from Wal-mart is helping or hurting the consumer, but it's probably not doing much of either.
so you people who are against stealing dont posess anything then/have never consumed anything dont wear clothes and dont eat? at some point everything (ok with the exception of a few bit of meteorite etc that fell out of space) has come from the earth, whether it grew out of the earth or whether it was made out of various ores/metals/petrochemicals/mud that humanity has seen fit to extract from the earth. at some point people have 'stolen' this earth and claimed it as their own thereby giving that person exclusive rights to the profitability of whatever product they are taking from the earth. everything you pay for has already been stolen. by buying it you are not only supporting but also being exploited by the theives. of course this happens by different degrees and tesco for example are much bigger thieves than my local family run cornershop, tesco have perfected thievery to the extent where they control the bosses of the workers who tend to the farms and dictate the price they will pay both on a localish scale with things like apples and an international scale with things like coffee, they control and thereby steal the labour and price of labour of their own workers on the shopfloor. they even steal choice from the consumer (in victorian london you could go to the market and have a selection of 50 different kinds of apples, now you go to any supermarket and have the same choice of 3-6 different kinds of apple.) whilst i agree that stealing from an individual is in the majority of cases wrong i think that not stealing from a supermarket is wrong. proudhon famously said that "property is theft" i would add to that; theft (as seen legally) is often the dissolution of property. and therefore often a subconscious insurrectionary will and (minute) step towards a free world as much as it is an act of selfishness (or in many cases survival) i believe my aura has in fact helped me to shoplift on occaisions by blurring the perception of reality for shopworkers/public. i would go as far as saying that theft has been part of my spiritual journey and has enriched my understanding of the dark and light.
yeah but shoplifting honestly is even more fun than doing it slyly. if you go in with some mates and just load your arms up with stuff then blatantly leave its funny, you either have people ignore you because they dont believe what they are seeing or you get chased down the street. once had a big gang of chavs cheering for us as we got chased by a fat security guard
the more a product is stollen the more the price on it will go up! at my store, we have the new one time use digital video recorder for $29.99. it has been stollen at least 4 times already!! I predict that sometime before the end of the year, the price will go up to somewhere in the hundreds, the packaging will become extremely impossible to open, and the product will be locked up behind the counter. that's what your stealing gets for everyone else.
To say you don't steal and don't believe in stealing is overly simplistic. If you are a member of this class-based free market system, then you are either a member of the oppressed underclass, or you, in some way or another, directly or indirectly, steal from the underclass every day. It is a system of inequality -- and that inequality can definitely be called stealing.
The only thing more lame than shoplifting is the lame pseudo-socialist excuses people make up to justify it. People steal because they are criminals. Stealing raises prices, and people on lower incomes suffer for it. If you shoplift then YOU are the lowlife that is stealing from the poor. At least have to courage to admit it and say you don't care.
STEAL THIS THREAD! Corporate exectutives steal millions every day. THEY are the real lowlifes. A shoplifter (or an honest lower class consumer) is like an insect in a huge predatory food chain.
The big corporations write it off as a tax loss and use it as an excuse to pay workers less. In addition, many times workers get in trouble for not preventing it. It also puts you at risk for jail. If you need to steal to live by all means, steal. However, walking into a store and telling someone that you are down on your luck and need a meal for you and your people works about as well.
. . . one could also say it is "overly simplistic" to classify all people as either a member of the oppressed underclass, or a member of the group that steals from them. Nothing [with humans] is so black and white. Define "inequality" in terms of stealing. I am not sure I understand or agree. Also, define how the "oppressed underclass" is ripped off every day, directly or indirectly, by members of the other class.
Yippie, Abbie Hoffman fan? Don't underestimate the importance AND significance of insects! Most of my sales are less than $25, but I do have customers that spend over $1000 in any month. While I do appreciate the business of the $1000 customer, it is the $25 sales that sustain my business, because of shear volume.
I pointed it out before. Tesco makes four cents on every dollar of sales. If Tesco can invest tens of millions of dollars by coming to your neighborhood, building modern stores and hiring people, buying goods and making them available to you, and after all that you say 4% makes them "thieving corporate criminals" and "opressors"? Empty left wing rhetoric. You're the thief, and its the poor that suffer for it.
If we lived in a sustainable environment you would have what you need and you would not need to steal. But the government isn't going to give you a sustainable lyfestyle you have to give that to yourself. Not living from government is the ultimate solution...just not relying on it for anything you need...or need to steal. But this means hard work. You can't steal sustainable living
. . . and that is 2 to 4 times the amount the evil, greedy retail pharmacies operate on! [depending on estimate and type of pharmacy (chain, independent, compounding, long term care, etc)]
There is a lot to it. It starts with inequality in education. Rich kids get opportunities that poor kids don't. Yes, there are exceptions, but spare me the "all you have to do is work hard" crap. The American dream is more of a pipe dream these days for most people. Partly as a reuslt of education and other inequities, poor people are driven into crippling debt and forced to work for wages so low they can barely feed and house themselves, much less their children. Poor neighborhoods become such desparate places that many turn to crime, which only increases the class divide. The rich insulate themselves in high rises and in the suburbs where they maintain their elitist "good ole boy" business networks and make sure the women and the non-white people stay poor and in their place. that's enough of a rant from me for now. ...and yes, Abbie Hoffman fucking rocks!
Nobody can spare you the hard work. While you're sitting there complaining and making up excuses for crime, other people are out there busting their ass making a life for themselves.