Why Don't You Believe?

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by BraveSirRubin, Apr 15, 2009.

  1. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Perhaps believing in the bible has nothing to do with following God.
     
  2. Martin_59

    Martin_59 Member

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    lolll

    at least forum posts don't claim to give an universal meaning and way of life. They are not dangerous.
     
  3. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    God Damn that's a nice ass! I hope to hell that's a chick!
     
  4. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

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    You could ask them why they don't believe in Vishnu
     
  5. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    I don't see those two possibilities--the anthropomorphic God and Devil--as likely at all, but some of the other ones are useful. I perceive God as a positive experience, comparable to orgasm. When you're having sex with a significant other, it spoils the mood to ask "How can I be sure this person exists?" Just go with it!
    I don't think of God as everything. God is the basis for everything. What's the point? God, by definition.
     
  6. Kinky Ramona

    Kinky Ramona Back by popular demand!

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    Okie, you are off topic. The thread was not about whether you believe in God or not, it was not directed to those who have a firm grasp on their faith, and it was not an invitation for preaching. This thread was directed towards those who do not believe in God or do not follow the Christian religion. I, myself, do not deny the existence of any higher power, for I am not vain enough to even begin to think I know the answer. I feel it is not my place to question the powers that be.
     
  7. Spiritchalist

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    I don't believe in a bible.

    I strongly believe in a higher being, or higher conciousness, which may or may not be all of us, etc.

    But a book, rewritten, revised, and retranslated probably hundreds and hundreds of times, written by a dozen or so different unnamed authors? No thanks.
     
  8. Tsurugi_Oni

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    I used to not believe cuz I didn't have proof.

    The Bible was man-made, written in different time periods by many men, was too mythical.

    Many Christians used poor logic, and when you broke their preschool arguements they had nothing to back them up. I did 100's of hours of apologetics research and logic was king.

    I thought the universe was simply a giant mechanical operation with no purpose, simply 0's and 1's.

    Even after being 100% sure that there was no god, one night changed it all.
     
  9. sinkersandfloaters

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    Two traits inherent in any religion are arrogance and exclusivity. Arrogance in the fact that this/these god(s)(esses) would take the effort to even care about the goings on upon (paraphrasing someone here - not sure who - Sagan?) a speck of dust orbiting an ordinary star, in the outer arm of an mediocre galaxy, in a remote corner of a cluster of galaxies, in an ever expanding universe. But wait!!, only I/me/my group know what this/these god(s)(esses) want. They have spoken to I/me/us directly only, with the only truth. And guess what..... You are dirt!! You're no better than sh*t on the bottom of a shoe... You need to grovel and wail and crawl in the mud to show your reverence... But, I/we/us can save you!! ------- WHAT UTTER TRIPE!!
     
  10. Maitreya

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    The bible was not meant to be an all inclusive holy text that had to be embraced above all else. That was politically engrained into our culture by people with power. The old testament was meant to be a set of guidelines. The new testament should have been a few pages of what jesus tried to teach mankind, but it turned into this over embellished and over exagerated set of letters from everyday men.

    Christianity was not meant to be so complicated. Humans made it so.

    BTW, im not a christian and i chose not to believe the literal interpretation of such radical beliefs for the same reason i dont agree with radical islamic teachings. But i still respect the lessons that true Islam attempts to teach. All within reference.

    And I was brought up southern baptist for the first eighteen years of my life.
     
  11. Hoatzin

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    No-one can believe in God and beat Resi 5, and God didn't cost me money.
     
  12. sunyatasamsara

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    I'm a Buddhist and the reason we don't believe in god is the fact that suffering exists. The first noble truth of Buddhism is that existence is dukkha. Dukkha means suffering or unsatisfactoriness.
     
  13. Asmodean

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    Doesn't sound clear to me why the fact that existance is dukkha makes it clear that there can't be a god?
     
  14. sunyatasamsara

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    A god would not create suffering period. The only way god could exist is if we are it's dreams.
     
  15. Asmodean

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    I didn't get any of that. Why are those things absolute?
     
  16. sunyatasamsara

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    God is one sick fuk if he's real. It proves western religions wrong, a god all perfect and loving creating suffering doesn't make sense. People try to justify it by saying he's testing us but like I said I don't care what your excuse is for him allowing suffering he's still a sick fuk then, which makes no sense when it's supposed to be a perfect entity.
     
  17. Asmodean

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    Maybe god is not all what it's supposed to be? Does it all makes sense if a god is only peace, love and perfection? Why's that? Because we like god to be like that perhaps? The holy shepherd... God can be so much more and maybe we don't have a clue about what perfection is. Perhaps god isn't perfect, I don't see why god has to be perfect because it created earth.
     
  18. sunyatasamsara

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    The whole concept of one god came form the ignorant arab religions. You can't say ultimate reality or reality is god, it just doesn't make sense but a lot of new age thinkers do that. God by definition is an entity outside existence and I see people trying to combine the two. There are views on reality and then there is the idea that an outside entity created this universe. They are two different things.
     
  19. rambleON

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    simply god is not the truth. simple.
     
  20. Tsurugi_Oni

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    God is Love, God is Timeless, God is Everything, God is the reason why we exist. God is the same thing as energy, but can be deeply understood to be even more than the simple scientific concept of energy. Most people who spout the above phrases often don't intimately understand these phrases, and so often lead people to think they're pointless philosophical phrases.

    But the Bible is a bunch of BS. Christianity is so far off base that most people can't even begin to imagine God because of prior notions. This fallacious book deters people from seeing what God truly is, a real shame. Jesus (if he was a real person) did an excellent job explaining the concept of God. You teach a baby "Don't talk to strangers" as a general rule until his consciousness rises enough for him to see the deeper meaning. And so it is with teaching man. Christians often relate to Jesus' teachings the same way and never truly raise their consciousness.
     

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