Why Don't You Believe?

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by BraveSirRubin, Apr 15, 2009.

  1. jiva

    jiva Member

    Messages:
    155
    Likes Received:
    0
    “I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.” -Stephen Roberts
    http://lukeprog.com/religion/gods.html
     
  2. lode

    lode Banned

    Messages:
    21,697
    Likes Received:
    1,677
    Eh, I'm more an agnostic than an atheist theses days. I mean theres a lot I don't know.

    What I do know is there isn't an invisible man up their judging me if I done wrong. If there is a god, he isn't actively involved in my life, or any ones.

    It's just a certain order and beauty to living. I think you can honor that by just trying to be the best person you can. And after we die, we're mammals. We will be dead. Your soul is just the beautiful humanistic part of your consciousness that loves.

    Because it's obvious and believing in an afterlife seems childish. Believing in a specific afterlife from an ancient Hebrew story book, with a god that creates lists and watches you to make sure you don't fart too loudly is ridiculous.

    So I don't believe in it because it's silly, and I can lead an affirming beautiful life without the vengeful parent complex. I can be a good person without deceiving myself that I'll be rewarded for it, is why I do not believe.

    But I don't even have the heart to argue with people.
     
  3. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

    Messages:
    33,922
    Likes Received:
    2,461
    I believe in the process of creation -- not religion. That's what I tell people anyway.
     
  4. prissbaby

    prissbaby creepy

    Messages:
    5,300
    Likes Received:
    8
    I've never believed in God... but I can say that I have some sort of faith in higher power. I believe in doing what feels right, soaking up life, and being the best person you can be while you are here on earth. I don't believe in heaven, but I do believe in karma. I don't know, my thoughts are mixed up most days.
     
  5. warmhandedcanadian

    warmhandedcanadian shit storm chaser

    Messages:
    20,419
    Likes Received:
    6
    religion is the poo on the shoe of politics and power
     
  6. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

    Messages:
    17,596
    Likes Received:
    11
    No offence but... what the hell does that mean?
     
  7. warmhandedcanadian

    warmhandedcanadian shit storm chaser

    Messages:
    20,419
    Likes Received:
    6
    Ok I'm stoned.
    so, Bear with me. :eek:
    Religion is basically used by whomever is in power to keep the masses at bay. This is the way that the rich can stay rich the powerful can stay powerful and those in government can run things the way they want.

    Religion is their bitch, and society's master.
     
  8. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

    Messages:
    11,724
    Likes Received:
    119
    The flaw with this, of course, is the assumption that something has to be done about evil, or that evil even exists.
     
  9. warmhandedcanadian

    warmhandedcanadian shit storm chaser

    Messages:
    20,419
    Likes Received:
    6
  10. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

    Messages:
    17,596
    Likes Received:
    11
    Righto. Crazy. But, righto.

    "We don't do God"
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/3301925.stm
     
  11. Carlfloydfan

    Carlfloydfan Travel lover

    Messages:
    7,176
    Likes Received:
    44
    I believe in god as a symbol.

    In other words, god symbolizes fear, more than anything else, for a large portion of people. Since fear is so prevalent, it has taken on a life of its own, almost like an unseeing, powerful entity.

    God also symbolizes guilt. People need to ease themselves of the guilt they feel so god symbolizes that get out of guilt free card. Again, kind of taking on a life of its own.

    Probably as long as fear and guilt exist, god in some form will always exist too because people need something to escape to from those feelings.

    But yes, there is no proof. I think there is something bigger than us, to think we are the final step is arrogant, but I also think whatever it is that is larger than life is more abstract than just "god' as described in the bible. The bible is 2,000 years old and had probably been changed ad nausea so how anyone relies on that book is beyond me.
     
  12. Carlfloydfan

    Carlfloydfan Travel lover

    Messages:
    7,176
    Likes Received:
    44
    This too.

    Religion is a control mechanism. It is a way for people to deflect all of life's problems away, because something better awaits, and you will be rewarded for your shit life, if you are faithful and stay the course (good Christian, etc.). So people will take the abuse now, for what they think lies ahead according to some archaic, often obscure book written (and changed) by ???

    "Religion is the opiote of the masses."
     
  13. IamnotaMan

    IamnotaMan I am Thor. On sabba-tickle. Still available via us

    Messages:
    6,494
    Likes Received:
    37
    I believe there's proof of spirituality and stuff.Which has alot in common with some organised religions.

    But it really annoys me to see the very worst in people coming out in the name of "Religion".I suppose it shows what a frail and blind species humans can be.

    I'm into cryogenics and massively superstitious.
    And I think its a shame when people try and twist Christianity and other religions for their own aims.
    I don't think all powerful beings are into wearing the "company logo T-shirts"..
    If u get my meaning.
     
  14. Kizen

    Kizen Member

    Messages:
    648
    Likes Received:
    0
    yeah god can be seen as a symbol which calls man to his highest destiny
     
  15. AquaLight

    AquaLight Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,931
    Likes Received:
    13
    If you cant hold yourself to high and good morals and standards, then using religion as a moral compass isn't so bad in moderation.
    Personally I haven't seen the need of religion for myself yet or why I should believe.
     
  16. opel diamond

    opel diamond burn out

    Messages:
    3,291
    Likes Received:
    1
    i don't believe in god because it's to unbelievable to be believable. like santa. :)
     
  17. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

    Messages:
    50,551
    Likes Received:
    10,140
    I've encountered these people as well on the streets and I generally tell them I was raised as a christian so I know all the stuff I need to know about it and it just doesn't seem likely to me that Jesus was part of a Trinity or more a son of God than any other human.
    Since Jesus is ought to be the centre of this religion I already don't believe in it. There are many more reasons though. I do believe there's a God, but I see no point in making it less abstract than it really is. Perhaps God isn't even the right word.
     
  18. daisymae

    daisymae Senior Member

    Messages:
    16,980
    Likes Received:
    21
    I would tell them I just can't do it. I've tried, but it's a lie, I've never been ABLE to believe in a god.
     
  19. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

    Messages:
    14,286
    Likes Received:
    644
    Do you believe in God?

    No.

    Why not?

    Do you believe that you exist?
     
  20. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

    Messages:
    50,596
    Likes Received:
    38,974
    YES! I believe in God, but I don’t except Christ as my savior - so move along :mad:

    Hotwater
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice