Why doe's the old people hate the young ones?

Discussion in 'Ask The Old Hippies' started by ChildoftheRisingSun, Jun 19, 2008.

  1. Musikero

    Musikero Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I agree. Nobody's perfect here.
     
  2. papapoet55

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    Aging is an illusion, as is this life, I may be gettin older BUT I refuse to grow up!!!
     
  3. AELcocholic

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    older people do not hate younger people its all in our head.. and when our generation gets over it then younger people will rise

    dont think about what older people did or what older people do
    think what you did and what you gonna do

    :) love and peace
     
  4. Daksi

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    :D I used to have the same question.

    Some of the reason is that some old folks are envious of young bodies. The Moody Blues had a song that sang something about "old people wish they were young". It wasn't until after I passed 50 did I really understand the words.

    One of the big reasons is that each generation has a different culture all of its own. All people's minds are structured upon their past memories, and the way that old folks used to live when young is not like young people today, which makes all people interpret the younger generation as 'wrong' compared to the older person's life when they were young.

    Some people hated everyone even when they were young.

    Some old folks had a life of being cheated and treated like dirt, and by the time they got old they also got fed-up and decided to no longer accept bad behavior. Old folks like that are usually grumpy towards everyone.

    Fifty years from now you will look at kids that are your age now, and you will interpret the new generation as behaving improperly. Every generation has done it and every generation will continue doing it.

    Now if you want to wear 40-50s clothing and listen to the Andrew Sisters or something, you'd probably get some old folks smiling your way. ;)
     
  5. aguest

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    Sounds to me like poetry, you know!:)

    And back to the question. There is a good principle in the Bible, for example, that one should respect the older one. Me personally, I used to apply this one when I was 17, continue doing it today. It's a good one.

    I don't think old people in general hate the young ones. I've seen it all through my life, that "old people" rather get, or expect to get, some inspiration from the young ones. If you don't fail to give them some inspiration in any form -- you'll never get "hated" by older folks. What kind of "inspiration"? I would mention, perhaps, these:

    When you listen to what they say and try to apply. That is NOT to make sure you'll be a copy of their lives; it is rather to show that you have a common sense in yourself enough to understand, that older ones have experience, which you just cannot have. By paying heed you show, that you are reasonable. For us old ones (he-he) it is a guarantee that you won't become just another disturbing factor in the environment. Well, something like this. "The young ones will make up the future, so what kind of young ones have I got around me? Are they all jerks? Then what kind of future should I expect? Don' t you let me down, he-he."

    Or, by your joyful and positive attitude you give some inspiration. When you pass the age of , say, 30 , the growing processes have already stopped, this all-conquering positivism of youth is gone. So it is inspiring to see the young ones full of that positivism, ready to meet whatever challenges life has in store for them. But will they apply this positive energy by treating the older ones kindly? By putting up with them? By helping them out? By showing respect? That would be inspiring.

    Or, if you give them older ones the attention they need. Pay attention to their opinion, ask how they're doing, how everything is, and so on.

    The older ones are always ready to share their wisdom, you only need to ask in the right way. And then one needs to show that he appreciates it, when they do share their wisdom. It may not be what you expected; but you were asking for some wisdom -- you got what you were asking for. Say "thank you".

    I can't think of anything else now, morning is not my best time, but I hope the general idea can be seen. Don't let them down and they won't "hate" you. Young ones can be refreshing to the older ones -- and then older ones will sure be refreshing to the young ones.

    Oh, almost forgot this one, he-he. Another way to avoid getting hated by the older ones is to reread and recheck one's post before posting it. To see if everything sounds correct and will be correctly understood, that it won't possibly insult somebody's feeling.
    I usually do it to my posts, folks. So if there is something irritating or insulting still in my posts, then I beg your pardon -- this is just the nasty kind of person that I am.
     
  6. smokincat

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    It might be difficult though to learn which ones actually deserve respect when so many turned into Yuppies when the 80's came around. I'm sorry, but one can't start a revolution and then abandon it and then come back around and say all is beautiful. My biggest fear is whether we'll make it through the boomers' turn in power of the US.

    Now I'm not at all referring to those who stayed true to the ethic, many of whom I have met and respect.
     
  7. groovyygirl

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    That was beautiful, man.
    Anyway, to answer the original question
    Why doe's the old people hate the young ones?
    I dont think anyone here really hates anyone. This place isnt about hate. Sure, there may be misunderstandings sometimes: The older hippies might sometimes think the younger ones are ignorant or whatever, and the younger hippies might think the older ones are self-righteous and everything, but you just gotta move on, and respect eachother. Theres nothing different between us and the old hippies apart from age and like...wisdom. We all want the same things for Earth, and for our lives.
    Yeah.
     
  8. BabelinShambles

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    The heading should say why do SOME old people dislike the younger ones... I would not consider any of the older folks in this forum to be Haters (unless your a troll). I would say that any dislike between younger generations and older generations usually arises from the conservative ideologies conflicting with liberal ideologys. I have run across more nice older folk than mean; the mean minded older folk are just lost souls in my mind - I actually feel sorry for the people who do not come off as nice (their anger, IMO, hides demons [struggles] they faced earlier in their life or are facing).
     
  9. aguest

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    He-he.
    No, it is, rather, because of what young and old view as "liberal";). These differ.
    Young ones are still to learn about this change in one's attitude.
     
  10. erzebet1961

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    Baby , I am so sorry if you ever got the impression that the old timers here had any hate for the young crowd.
    I can tell you honestly that i have never seen any hate , instead , I have seen old trying to guide young in the best way they can online.
    I dont think theres any hate here , Yall are what this worlds going to be left too...and we worry...thats all
    Peace and huggs little friend
     
  11. vasik

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    I know only good or bad people, age does not make a difference to me. It is nonsense.
     
  12. ChildoftheRisingSun

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    No, no i'm not talkin about hipforums old folk here are great :)
    I love ya guys
    When i made this thread i was talkin about the old conservative folk that have no hair.


    Ps. No offense to bold old hippies
     
  13. recordal

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    I'm 53. I went to a music festival the other day and many of us young and old were on psychedelics. We were all the same age!!! My body is middle age, my mind is young, my soul is ageless. Any hippies around Elmira/Ithaca NY get ahold a' me. Peace.
     
  14. silverhippy

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    I hate no one. I may disagree with you. But no hate is intended. We older ones went through alot. We tried to make a world without hate. We fought in the streets to stop it and got shot down for it. Perhaps what you percive as hate is just someone being impatient with you. We are accused of selling out. Some did. But life goes on. You can only fight for so long. What we tried to spread was love and peace. You can see it didn't work very well. We would like to see the young ones carry on with it but they don't. Oh you may keep it in your own way but we don't see the outrage we had for hate and intolerance. But I really feel no hate for young people why would I. I was young once and felt the same way you do. But as I grew up I learned it was not hate the elders were showing it was misunderstanding. So don't interpret that as hate.

    Peace
     
  15. Hooty

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    My eldest grandaughter went through a "Witch" period. She paradied her best friend.

    I told them they look like freaks. Her friend certainly took exception to that.

    Today they are no longer witches.LOLOL

    I told them both a few weeks ago that they are very pretty now.

    Respect is earned and once earned gives one a certain allowance to act in ways or say things that might hurt others but the one who respects them understands that they say or do things simply in jest or to try pizzing you off.

    I irritate friends or others I like constantly. It is expected of me now. It isnt done to hurt them, in fact if I failed to insult or tease them they would think I was angry with them.

    Not sure what any of that has to do with the topic but for some reason the topic made me think of it.

    Thank God something can still make me think.LOL
     
  16. janisjoplin!

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    I beleive we have alot to teach each other, the new and the old ways together we cAn combat the estblissment becouse thats why were here ????? right .Thats why call my self a hippie becouse i see my self as alternative .
     
  17. liberer

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    I Love You Allllllllllllll !!!!!!!
     
  18. lildreadymama

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    i think it comes down to a respect factor, older hippies have been thru a lot "in their day", they are wiser and deserve to have the respect they earned. i always have shown not just older people but everyone with respect.its worked really well for me, i suggest trying that.

    just last night i was chilling with some older hippy guys and i had an awesome time with them.they were hilarious and one guy was the most amazing man ive met where i live, you see lotsa weird things here.He owned a little block in our town and had all sortsa fun stuff to mess with.He had a bicycle made into a mini soundstage, it had big buddhas all over it covered in neon lights. He told me stories about things he did and about the house his families lived in for over a century...Not many people like him around.i was especially a little shocked bcuz this was in a predominantly black neighborhood, i felt welcome (which i rarely do in this area). it was nice to just be sitting there bullshitting with these old hermits.

    What im trying to say is older people have a lot to teach. you just have to close your mouth long enuff to get anything interesting out of them.
     
  19. stinkfoot

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    You know this for a fact?
    Well since you asked so very nicely I'll make an exception here and use some wisdom (whatever that is)...

    There is the quiet wisdom of having lived through an experience and knowing that there's no possible way of understanding without experiencing it and along comes a wonderful bright and beautiful young person full of wonderful gems attained strictly by ear.. truisms admittedly but what is really being promoted is credibility... and anyone who hasn't gotten their feet wet is going to be hard pressed to describe what wet feet are like.

    Listen and do. An old parenting mantra is "do as I say not as I do". It's very difficult to win respect and credibility with this approach. It's understandable to not want younger folks to repeat your mistakes but there's the visceral wisdom af having wet feet...

    One of my all time favorite people was a young co-worker finishing out high school while working part time. In many ways a typical "kid" boasting a proficiency in beer pong and a passion for fast cars & pretty women. What initially impressed about this young man was his work ethic... most adults didn't apply themselves as well as him and I knew if I ask for a job to be done not only would he take on the task without complaint but it would be done properly. It was his approach to conflicts and life in general that won my respect- his folks offered to pay off his car if he quit his job; they were concerned about his grades in school- C average... he refused- preferring to earn his own money and do things himself... increasing his school efforts enough to secure his diploma and move on to trade school. he's now the lead man working in HVAC pulling in twice what I'm making and he deserves every penny.

    I don't hate young people... I was young once myself. The things that young egos profess to know remind me of the egotistical asshole I was. Had I done a little less talking and a little more listening, I might not have littered my path to where I am now with so many former friends.

    The problem I see with most younger people reflects the problems with society in general where there's a disconnect from responsibility and when one falls the first reaction is finding someone else to blame. Knowledge is not a substitute for experience and one cannot experience having someone else take the blame for his mistakes and count that as wisdom.

    That you asked this question is a good thing- the way you asked says that you have a long twisting road ahead of you and you may as well enjoy the ride because it's probably going to be bumpy.
     
  20. aguest

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    Sorry if I go further off topic, but how long did it take you to realize this?
    Just some personal interest, you know;)
     

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