why does everyone hate cops?

I’m a law abiding citizen too but that doesn’t mean I have to like those profiling little bastards on doughnut patrol



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Yeah its the same. Look up what happened in Seattle 1999. People were protesting the WTO and peaceful protestors were brutalized. It's the same or worse everywhere else.

Cops are often the ones who are on the side of injustice when it comes to social movements. Not cops as individuals necessarily. But cops in general as an institution. They are there to protect the status quo.

I have an automatic gag reflex when it comes to such blatant authoritarian bullshit.

Cops exist to perpetuate and protect an unjust, corupt system. They protect laws, the state and corporate power. Then the people (if they aren't busy beating us to a bloody pulp for trying to defend the earth, minorities, free speech, etc.)

I do have a friend who is a cop. He's an asshole. But he's a nice guy

 

I'm from Pittsburgh and when the G8 was here, there were a lot of bullshit abuse claims. (But there were actual cases as well.)
There was one video of police unfairly breaking up a peaceful protest at Pitt and launching tear gas after people left. However, the video didn't show that the windows were bricked on a whole block just before what was seen on tape. This included a local family owned diner. Way to protest big capitalism.
This video was actually shown on The Daily Show.

 

Yes but what I'm saying is that humans will, forever and ever, do drugs. The ugly will seek sex even though they don't appeal to women and the people will have negative things to say about their government.

What they are doing is trapping the people for things they do by default. Things that are inescapably human. Simply locking people up for it will never stop the act itself or the needs that spark the act.

The war on drugs will never be won, and there will always be prostitutes. Always. They will never be eradicated no matter how much of a moral stance the government or law enforcement has on them. Or the amount of action they take against them. They are putting people through needless angst for something that will never work. Ever.

 

I'm a martial artist and have trained side by side with several cops who have been students/instructors where I train. Truth is, they're some of the nicest people I know. Though I'd NEVER want to meet them on the street under the wrong circumstances lol.
Frankly there are good cops and bad cops, just as there are good people and bad people. Some police abuse their power, others are truly dedicated to the betterment of society. The police are people too. Just like all of use.

To be honest I am wary of cops if I'm intoxicated (for obvious reasons), but that's not an issue of the them being bad, its just that our current drug policies are bad. Actually, I think it's really hypocritical of most stoners to say fuck the police, get all righteous about marijuana being a peaceful drug, then go smoke some stuff smuggled by violent drug cartels. (Of course this doesn't apply when the weed is local)

Also, any of you heard of Law Enforcement Against Prohibition? Its a fantastic organization. http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php

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Then I agree with your message even if I didn't like the way you said it originally =)

I don't get how we decided alcohol prohibition was a terrible idea and made weed illegal in the same decade.

 

Yeah sometimes I ramble and get the wrong message across.

Yes crudely ironic, but even in the days of alcoholic prohibition there was alcohol. Our modern time is faced with a more complex drama...the bare issue of the prohibition of substance freedom. Once we get over that hurdle we will be well on our way to something better.

 

Alcohol use actually went up in major cities during prohibition.

But see, I think the only way legalization is going to happen is through emphasis that you can regulate or prohibit - but not both. Beat the system from within and all that.

Alcohol regulation is going really well all and all (anywhere but college campuses). I only got drunk four times my whole teenage-hood.

Complete substance freedom isn't going to happen and in some instances shouldn't happen.

 

Skewer pigs over a fire. :sunny:

 

I was there in 2009 to protest the G20. I was part of the "permitted march." I find it funny that we have to get permission to practice democracy. An Iraq Veteran (Against the War) from my state was there with us and he got arrested while trying to help a journalist who had gotten sprayed in the eyes. (he was there as a medic for the protestors in case something like this happened). My freinds had to drive all the way back (from CT) to bail him out.

I understand the breaking of corporate property if only to serve as a symbol of the people taking the power back and smashing corporate globalization. I still however have no idea why people would attack small businesses (unless they have some other problems with them like discrimination or racist policies which I kinda doubt. They just got carried away probably)

 

Yeah, my friend walked through tear gas in his own neighborhood.
I found the protest zones to be really ridiculous myself; can't say I'm very proud of my city in that respect.

A lot of people were just plain trouble-making and having fun. There were professional protesters blocking up traffic without any real message, there were anarchists breaking shit without real reason (and pushing dumpsters into cop cars, which is what started the gassing that my friend walked through), it was an event; like a concert or party.

There was no real point to it. There were so many people protesting so many different things that all messages were lost. (No offense meant by that.) I'm pretty sure a lot of people didn't know what they were protesting.

Oh, and the ACLU is suing the city for their handling of the protest and helping with some of the more controversial cases of police abuse. So I'm sure the city's glad with their decision to let them hold the summit here.

 

Very true. I think lacking a clear message is an important point. It might be just that there are SO MANY issues that its hard to narrow it down.

There are serious anarchists out there though (like me). They aren't all immature running around breaking shit indiscriminately. I choose to come at the kalidescope of civilization's problems in my own way (less with the trashing more with the creating). Anarchism doesn't imply chaos like a lot of those kids think. Not that some of them might not be doing both.

 

Good and bad in all people....no matter their professions. Judges can be worse...they can't be sued....atleast you can sue a cop. But...i say there are as many good cops as there are bad....they are there when they are needed...atleast where i live. And...think of what they have to deal with day in day out...no wonder they're dicks.

 

Cops are often in my personal experience and what I have seen on a powder trip that having a badge and gun can give someone. Many are also hypocrites, who arrest someone for weed, and then smoke weed themselves, this I have seen with my own eyes.
And where I live if someone is breaking into yuor house, you better have a gun and shoot them, becasue by the time the cops get around to anything, in most citys I have lived in, even nice areas, if someone is breaking in your house to rob and kill you, by the time you call the cops, the people are already inside and you are laying dead. I have had to shot at crazy people trying to kick in my door several times, and if I had called the cops and waited on them, I sure as hell would not be here typing this. I Don't hate all cops, only the ones on power trips, the little scrawny ones no one like in High School, who think their badge and gun make them god!! Also all the crooked cops who bust kilos or coke or heroin, and then put it back on the street selling it to dealers , it happens more than you think, at least in New Orleans and Memphis, where in both citys cops often rob drug dealers and then sell the dope to them back for .50 cants on the dollar or use their snitches to sell it to rival dealers at full price, and they will and have killed innocent people for seeing or turning them in, especially in New Orleans in the past..

 

you all have a guilty conscience...

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Cops may deal with a lotta bad or negative shit everyday, but they can quit anytime and they know what they are getting into when they becaome a cop, if that is too much for them , then they can quit their job, just like I have quit shitty jobs.

 

My point of saying that..is to say why they act the way they do...that doesn't mean they are not happy with their jobs. It is all protocol. Some of the shit is just how they are trained. But..the fact is..whether they like it or not...they deal with a lot of shit most people wouldn't. Some are also on power trips..so wtf ever...how many of you can say they brutalized you? Fucked you over personally..when you weren't doing anything wrong? Exactly. Here's the thing...at some point in your life you will need one...hopefully you're smart enough to respect them. If i quit a job everytime i didn't like it....i would have never worked. Hope you're smart enough to get a new one before quitting the old one. Jobs are hard to come by where i live.

 

Cops are puppets for the government who do nothing but collect money.

 

^^This^^

... and government itself is a corporate puppet.