Why does everyone believe in conspiracy theories nowadays?

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  1. MollyCuddled

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    I’m curious to this answer because if that’s the case I’m out of this conversation. I don’t want to be anywhere near that nonsense
     
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  2. Shy0ne

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    what answer
     
  3. MeAgain

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    Shyone believes the Nazis were benevolent and were looking out for the good of the Jewish people. For example she has posted that they provided a swimming pool, plays, and orchestral entertainment for them at Auschwitz....and free health care as all they wanted to do was delouse them in those infamous "showers".
    The deaths at the camp were due to the allies bombing the country side thus curtailing food production....the allies were the bad guys...Nazis good guys.

    This latest post is the final solution documents written at the German Wannsee conference in 1942. She claims that since the words kill or murder are not included in the document...well the Nazis were good people. All they wanted to do, according to the document, was to force Jews into ghettos, force them to work for the Nazis, and give them the option of sterilization or deportation.
    Her whole argument relies on this fact. That's similar to an organized crime boss telling his hit men to "take care" of some poor soul he wants killed. He uses an euphemism which is understood by all involved in an attempt to avoid repercussions if something goes wrong with his plan. He didn't want the guy killed, he was looking out for his welfare, after all he told the hit man to take care of the guy. What's wrong with that?

    All this even though Adolf Erichaman of the SS, who was present at the Wannsee conference and participated in the final solution, stated that "I never saw a written order, all I know is that Heydrich told me, 'the Führer ordered the physical extermination of the Jews.'"
    Selective interpretation of well documented facts in support of her seeming admiration for the Nazis and disdain for the allies.
     
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  4. MollyCuddled

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    Odd to get a logic or math lecture from someone with that belief
     
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  5. Shy0ne

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    false
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    they wanted to force the disabled Jews and those over 65 and war veterans into ghettos, they rest they wanted deported outside their borders and those that stayed had to be force sterilized, their choice.
    false, they wanted the skilled labor they could not replace to stay and work, didnt you read the minutes?
    true for Jews that wanted to stay in the Reich
    euphemism? what euphemism?
    true, but not according to your unresearched definition.


    Did you know?

    Originally, to exterminate something was to banish it or drive it away. And it is this meaning that can be found in the Latin origin of "exterminate." "Exterminate" comes from "exterminatus," the past participle of exterminare, meaning "to drive beyond the boundaries." The Latin word exterminare was formed from the prefix ex- ("out of" or "outside") and "terminus" ("boundary"). Not much more than a century after its introduction to English, "exterminate" came to denote destroying or utterly putting an end to something. And that's the use with which the word is usually employed today.


    Definition of EXTERMINATE

    You know I dont believe anything you cant provide hard evidence
    I remain unconvinced that story is true

    You know I dont believe anything you cant provide hard evidence
    I remain unconvinced that story is true

    None of which has been historically disputed.

    Are you seriously going to dispute the undisputed fact that Hitler installed swimming pools, a theater, and they had orchestras in the camps for prisoner entertainment?

    So do you have any hard material evidence for your conspiracy theory?
     
  6. MollyCuddled

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    This is more than enough for me to drop out of this nonsense. Please do not reply to me or in any way involve me in this discussion anymore. I do not want any association with it
     
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  7. Shy0ne

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    Oh you bet!
    If you live anywhere in Europe you better run like hell and get as far away from this as possible to avoid their free speech graybar hotel ;)
     
  8. MollyCuddled

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    I literally just asked that you not reply to me. Please respect that
     
  9. MeAgain

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    This is a growing problem as the years pass since the Nazi regime.
    Deniers can be ignored or they can be refuted with facts.
    The problem is when you ignore them they go on broadcast lies, misinformation, and propaganda.
    If you try to present the actual facts, they will never accept them as they have already made up their minds on the matter.

    As a result many countries including Austria, Belgium, the Czech Republic, France, Germany, Hungary, Israel, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Slovakia, and Switzerland have passed laws prohibiting holocaust denial.

    Those who promote Holocaust denial are part of a growing antisemitic era.
    Holocaust denial is supported by the far right Institute for Historical Review, the KKK, the neo Nazi Daily Stormer site, and the white nationalist Counter-Currents Publishing among other far right groups and individuals.
     
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  10. Shy0ne

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    odd, there arent any germans being entertained here, they are walking around the camp, where are the germans they are supposedly entertaining?

    Ok lets compare them

    Did the nazis edit our aerial photos and put a fake swimming pool in there with fake barracks?

    [​IMG]


    Below is eisenhowers Rhine meadows prisoner of war camp, this was only one of many camps.

    Not only did they throw disarmed soldiers in there they also threw civilians and farmers and tossed them in there as well.

    Who could ask for better facilities and treament?
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    Luxury hilton hotel accommodations! This is hard material evidence!

    [​IMG]

    Plush foot deep mud carpeting, soaked in their own excrement total luxury!
    What a great guy that eisenhower was!
    Im ashamed to admit he is Jewish.


    Capt. Ben H. Jackson said that when he approached one of the camps along the Rhine: “I could smell it a mile away. It was barbaric.”

    There [were] 10,000 or more German prisoners in this open field, standing shoulder to shoulder. This bunch of prisoners [was] there for three days or more with no food or water, no shelter… Most of the guards were very brutal… On the morning the prisoners were moved out… mud was deep as far as I could see. Heads, arms and legs of the dead were sticking out of the mud. It made me sick and disgusted.


    When I threw this food over the barbed wire to the prisoners, I was caught and threatened with imprisonment. I repeated the “offense,” and one officer angrily threatened to shoot me. I assumed this was a bluff until I encountered a captain on the hill above the Rhine shooting down at a group of German civilian women with his .45 caliber pistol. When I asked, “Why?” he mumbled, “Target practice,” and fired until his pistol was empty.

    These prisoners, I found out, were mostly farmers and workingmen, as simple and ignorant as many of our own troops. As time went on, more of them lapsed into a zombie-like state of listlessness, while others tried to escape in a demented or suicidal fashion, running through open fields in broad daylight towards the Rhine to quench their thirst. They were mowed down.

    Propaganda dehumanizing German women ranged from subtle to explicit. It worked to make their abuse a sport.

    Martin Brech saw bodies go out of the camp by the truckload, but he was never told how many there were, or where and how they were buried.[3] Brech said in 1995 regarding the U.S. Army, “It is clear that in fact it was the policy to shoot any civilians trying to feed the prisoners.”

    Brech has also confirmed that Eisenhower’s starvation policy was harshly enforced down to the lowest level of camp guard.[4]

    Eisenhower’s Evil Deception: Exterminating German POWs Abroad While Portraying POWs on U.S. Soil as Pampered

    There are red cross documents stating the same and when I run across them I will post them to prove the points with MORE MATERIAL EVIDENCE!

    How can you think your claims are true when you have not posted any hard evidence and I have posted material evidence for almost every response?
     
  11. Shy0ne

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    I HAVENT DENIED ANYTHING!

    PLEASE STOP WITH THE DENIER BUNK!

    I told you false accusers that I DO NOT DISAGREE AND I DO NOT AGREE, I AM NEUTRAL, I examine and respond with MATERIAL EVIDENCE!

    I need evidence to agree with ANYTHING in my life, therefore I simply LACK BELIEF, and lacking belief MEANS UNDETERMINED, NOT YET CONVINCED EITHER WAY.

    So PLEASE STOP posting untruth by calling or implying that I am a holocaust "denier"
     
  12. Shy0ne

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    Id say my little psychology test is a grand slam home run success in proving my orthodox theory.

    My theory is that people have made the holocaust a religion this thread is proving the case far better than I ever expected it could!

    Its a religion when hard material 'indisputable' evidence to the contrary is presented in argument its dismissed completely without consideration and no counter hard material evidence to offer in return.

    :p

    So what euphemisms are you talking about in your conspiracy theory?

    List them.
     
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    Another one bites the dust! Shy, unlike the rest of us, has no life, so she can wear anyone down by reprinting her collection of fringe Holocaust denial books and articles. Not a shred of original thinking or research on her part. This is what she lives for, the only thing that makes her feel important. Sad. But typical of NPD.
     
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    Correction Shyone doesn't deny the holocaust didn't happen she just doesn't believe it did.
    This is known as a distinction without a difference.
     
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    Everything she feeds us is from Holocaust denial sources. She claims that she isn't defending them, but is inviting us to refute them! It's as though somebody who claims to be neutral on Trump starts feeding us the latest material from Fox, Breitbart and transcripts of Tucker Carlson's commentaries and tells us that we need to refute them all, or Trump must be a great guy. That way she can be guaranteed company in the years to come. (BTW, she is, of course, a Trump supporter, so I hope I haven't given her ideas.)
     
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  16. Shy0ne

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    there you go!
    right back to shoot the messenger because you cant debate the messengers evidence.
    You are proposing we go to Jewish sites to find evidence that is contrary to the official story?
    May as well go to the NIH's site and ask them if they are guilty of gain-of-function research! LMAO
    Ask you to provide evidence you are guilty of speeding.
    Do you realize how over the top nutterville what you are saying really is?
     
  17. Shy0ne

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    Still nothing to defend your conspiracy theory?
    I also do not believe it did not.
    That makes me neutral.


    [​IMG]https://blog.prepscholar.com › agnostic-definition
    What Does It Mean to Be Agnostic? - PrepScholar
    When someone is agnostic, however, that person neither believes nor disbelieves that there is any sort of higher power. In other words, agnostics aren't persuaded by arguments that there is a God (or gods, as the case may be)...nor are they convinced arguments that God doesn't exist.


    in this case that your premise is true, the same as a court would do if this were on trial.

    Still trying to duck your liability to provide material evidence!

    You can have your own beliefs but you cant have your own facts.

    Facts require EVIDENCE not opinion polls.

    :p


    Still waiting for evidence of your conspiracy theory?
     
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    Im trying to root out the facts, you have not yet given me any indisputable FACTS on the other hand I have given you plenty.

    https://www.dictionary.com › browse › fact
    Fact Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com
    something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact. something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true: Scientists gather facts about plant growth.

    your opinions and those you quote are not material fact.

    You cannot refute the 'fact' that Wannasee is anything other than deportation/segregation/sterilization plans. Until you can demonstrate otherwise all you have is a conspiracy theory that we all have to buy Dick Tracy secret decoder watches to understand! :cool:
     
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    The holocaust is a conspiracy theory? Hmmm. Never heard that one before.
     
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    My theory about the popularity of conspiracy theories, is partly due to religious and political brainwashing.

    It starts as a child with lies about the Easter Bunny, Santa, then Virgin birth and Resurrection, and that's just One religion.

    That conditions young minds to believe in bullshit. And when they see adults so happily speading the b.s., it becomes normalized in their minds and in their culture.

    Then the ignorant adult children are once again lied to by those they respect, they fall for whatever propaganda spews in their face from their supposed icons revealing hidden truths.

    Whether it be lies about the Holocaust, or a supposedly stolen election, they will take up arms and encourage others to right whatever perceived grievances they have with violence. We are close to that now. People have their fingers on the hair trigger ready to fight for the lies they were told as children...
     
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