Why does everyone believe in conspiracy theories nowadays?

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    Next she'll be giv'in us the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
     
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    See ya around! Stop back any time!

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    You have enough direct problems to sort out and deal with that remain unanswered and irrational that you failed to demonstrate, no need to deepen the hole any further until you make some progress with the volumes that have already been cited that make your claims highly suspect. Starting with the fact there were never more than 400,000 total people that ever set foot in Auschwitz yet 4 million were claimed to be gassed there. I gave a rough cursory glance style estimate on the last page and only 117 Jews were executed in Auschwitz from 1939 - 1945. So you got a lot of work to do, as I said there is a preponderance of hard evidence that suggest your narratives are highly suspect.
     
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    Tsk, tsk. Nasty Jews. No appreciation , just cuz the new Nazi government began a campaign of dehumanizing propaganda against them and were about to pass the first law excluding them from public office.
     
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    The original question was...

    "Why does everone believe in conspiracy theories nowadays?"

    I would have to say that from studying history, people have believed in conspiracy theories and followed rumors since perhaps the beginnings of time. Religion being a prime example...
     
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    There are certainly similarities in terms of psychological and sociological mechanisms behind them: the need explanation when things go wrong (witches; heretics who caused the gods to punish the community, etc.) Christians were persecuted in the Roman empire because they refused to sacrifice to the gods, risking angering them and bringing their wrath down upon the whole community. They were also thought to be practicing secret cannibalistic rites and incestuous orgies, since they consumed a body and blood in their communion rituals and called each other "brother" and "sister." Later, after the Christians took over, Jews became the target. During the Middle Ages they were accused of poisoning wells and sacrificing Christian infants for blood to leaven their Passover bread. Today, of course, we've advanced, thanks to the wonders of the internet and social media. We now have Q-Anon telling us Democrats are sacrificing children to Satan to harvest their adrenachrome.
    https://www.npr.org/2021/05/18/997559036/americas-satanic-panic-returns-this-time-through-qanon
    The Dark Virality of a Hollywood Blood-Harvesting Conspiracy
    QAnon explained: the antisemitic conspiracy theory gaining traction around the world
    Jews, of course, have remained a perennial favorite target of conspiracy theorists. Antisemitic trope - Wikipedia
    How antisemitic conspiracy theories contributed to the recent hostage-taking at the Texas synagogue
     
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    antireligion equally applies.

    Many think and I lean in that direction as well that the Holocaust being central to the media focus is to cover up allied atrocities such as Eisenhower the terrible swedish Jew as described by his classmates committed war crimes against humanity.

    Is this a holocaust too? Here is a picture of Eisenhowers camp that IMO is a DEATH camp! Take note there are no buildings, no facilities, no food, and food stocks were piled up on the outside of the fence and anyone who tried to give the germans food was shot by American soldiers.

    This is the womens camp! See any buildings or facilities?


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    The biggest problem is that due to the constant assault of lies from various political groups and MSM complicity many of these conspiracy theories turn out to be true.

    Eisenhower was a mass murderer and we elected him to be president!

    He 'caused' well over a million Germans to die, and this was even noted by the red cross that he prevented from giving these people food and other life sustaining supplies, unlike Hitler who simply had resources bombed out from beneath him. Personally I cant fault Hitler for the state of the camps that the allied caused.

    Yes conspiracies there is a huge movement out there to bury the fact that all too often these so called theories are true.
     
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    Q-Anon and Pizzagate are recent examples that conspiracies are real and perpetrated by diseminators of conspiracy theories. The conspirators were a group of Alt-right cyberpunks, first at 4-chan, then 8-chan, then 8-kon, --millennial male misfits who were into the gaming culture, had lots of time on their hands, and thought they were slicker than snot.
    Pizzagate conspiracy theory - Wikipedia
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/02/16/pizzagate-qanon-capitol-attack/
    Q Into the Storm - Wikipedia
    QAnon - Wikipedia
    Given the nature of the theories they were spreading, one must think they sat around asking each other "what fantastic story can we sucker people into believing this week? I know: JFK, Jr. is alive, is now a Republican, and would be speaking to announce that Trump would be reinstated, and that he would be Trump's vice president, and would be speaking a Delay Plaza in Dallas where JFK, Sr., was assassinated. JFK (also apparently still alive) would also make a cameo appearance at the event. They sent out the word. People bought it and hundreds showed up--only to be somewhat disappointed but not undaunted!
     
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    Maybe its just me but it seems to me that if someone came out and said the Holocaust was just a cover story to cover for American and allied atrocities during the war why shouldnt someone believe that? Especially since we havent even brought the planned mass murder of Dresdenites and close to a 1/2 million refugees that were flooding the city under the pretext of bombing the railroad which was left virtually untounched by any bombs while over 96% of the RESIDENTIAL and downtown area looke like 5 nukes were dropped on them! Actually that would have been merciful by comparison.

    Dresden was the cultural center of Germany and it was absolutely stunningly beautiful housing art dating back centuries with no military defense or munitions depots etc!



    The buildings had stunning artwork

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    It was called TERROR bombing

    Which meant murdering as many people as possible regardless if they were combatants or not.
     
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    Even after the Middle Ages, the Jews were targets of persecution, the Spanish Inquisition and the massacres by Eastern Orthodox Ukranians and Catholic Poles being notable examples. Until the French Revolution, Jews in Europe were denied civil rights, and they remained suspect as "outsiders" because many continued to practice their religion. Because they were denied land during the Middle Ages, they were relegated to commercial activities and banking, thus incurring the dislike and suspicion of people who feared their economic power. The term anti-Semitism was introduced by Wilheim Marr in 1879 to describe the anti-Jewish persecution in central Europe then. It was transported to the U.S. on the heels of an influx of Jewish immigrants, leading to publication of Timayenis (1888)The American Jew: An Expose of His Career, the first Anti-Semitic tract in this country, warning that Jews (less than 1% of the population at the time, "had "acquired a hold on this country such as they had never secured on any nation in Europe". The book is currently enjoying a revival on the internet. In the 20th century, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion made its debut in Russia as a part of a campaign to support the position of the foundering Czar Nicholas II. It was falsely presented as the minutes of meetings by Jewish leaders around the world to control the world and restoring the Davidic kingdom by controlling the economy and promoting pornography and liberal ideas. The rise of the successful banking Rothschild family became the all-purpose targets explaining things going wrong in the world, as they still are today. George Soros, the Hungarian-American business magnate seems to be edging them out as the alleged bankroller and manipulator of everything the Retrumplican right loves to hate--most recently the prosecution of Trump in Manhattan. BTW, I'm not Jewish.
     
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    but the records jave shown that the vast majority in the camps were poles, how can he honestly say Jews, or does that have nothing to do with honesty? Please explain.
     
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    Yes I talked about that already, you apparently have a short memory?
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    Oh Puhlease, why dont you stop with the opinion pieces and post referenced material that drives to the core instead of the fluff?

    Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler

    Antony C. Sutton
    The contribution made by American capitalism to German war preparations can only be described as phenomenal. It was certainly crucial to German military capabilities.... Not only was an influential sector of American business aware of the nature of Nazism, but for its own purposes aided Nazism wherever possible (and profitable)―with full knowledge that the probable outcome would be war involving Europe and the United States.”

    Penetrating a cloak of falsehood, deception, and duplicity, Professor Sutton reveals one of the most remarkable and under-reported facts of World War II―that key Wall Street banks and American businesses supported Hitler’s rise to power by financing and trading with Nazi Germany. Carefully tracing this closely guarded secret through original documents and eyewitness accounts, Sutton comes to the unsavory conclusion that the catastrophe of World War II was extremely profitable for a select group of financial insiders. He presents a thoroughly documented account of the role played by J.P. Morgan, T.W. Lamont, the Rockefeller interests, General Electric, Standard Oil, and the National City, Chase, and Manhattan banks, Kuhn, Loeb and Company, General Motors, Ford Motor Company, and scores of others in helping to prepare the bloodiest, most destructive war in history.
    Goodreads




    You should consider reading things that
    " Penetrate the cloak of falsehood, deception, and duplicity" instead of giving citing so much puppy chow fed to the masses.




    Suttons work is 100% source referenced from official documents.
     
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    I cant believe the media puppy chow you people post!

    Why dont you all come down and grab a breath of fresh air of reality?

    Now you are claiming its clear that Hitler intended to murder all the Jews but cant find so much as one order one word one utterance or even so much as one passing thought that your propaganda is true.

    Nice conspiracy theory you people thought up!

    The final solution was developed in an office.

    It would be refreshing to see you people post a few
    facts for a change!

    HERE IS THE REAL FINAL SOLUTION!

    Secret Reich Matter!
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    Protocol of Meeting.
    I.
    The following persons participated in the meeting on the final solution of the Jewish question,
    held on 20 January 1942 at Am Grossen Wannsee 56-58, Berlin: Gauleiter Dr Meyer and Reich Department Head Dr Leibbrandt Reich Ministry for the Occupied Eastern Territories
    State Secretary Dr Stuckart Reich Ministry of the Interior
    State Secretary Neumann Office of the Plenipotentiary for the Four Year Plan
    State Secretary Dr Freisler Reich Ministry of Justice
    State Secretary Dr Bühler Office of the Governor General
    Undersecretary of State Luther Foreign Office
    SS-Oberführer Klopfer Party Chancellery
    Ministerial Director Kritzinger Reich Chancellery


    - 2 -
    SS-Gruppenführer Hofmann Race and Settlement Main Office
    SS-Gruppenführer Müller Reich Security Main Office
    SS-Obersturmbannführer Eichmann
    SS-Oberführer Dr Schöngarth Security Police and Security Service of the SS (SD) Commander of the Security
    Police and the Security Service of the SS (SD) in the General Government
    SS-Sturmbannführer Dr Lange Security Police and Security Service of the SS (SD)
    Commander of the Security Police
    and Security Service of the SS (SD) for the
    General District Latvia, representing
    the Commander of the Security Police
    and the Security Service of the SS (SD)
    for the Reich Commissariat Ostland.

    II. SS-Obergruppenführer H e y d r i c h , Head of the Security Police and the SD, opened the
    meeting with the announcement that the Reich Marshal had put him in charge of preparations for the final solution of the Jewish question. He noted that this conference had been convened to clarify fundamental questions.

    The Reich Marshal’s request to be sent a draft regarding the organisational, technical and material aspects of the final solution of the Jewish question requires that all of the central agencies directly involved with these questions address them jointly in advance in order to align their activities.

    The authority for directing the final solution of the Jewish question rests with the Reichsführer SS and Head of German Police (Office of the Head of the Security Police and the SD), regardless of geographical boundaries.

    https://www.ghwk.de/fileadmin/Redak...English_translation_wannsee_protocol_2020.pdf

    Here is the original German version: https://www.ghwk.de/fileadmin/Redaktion/PDF/Konferenz/protokoll-januar1942_barrierefrei.pdf


    Long story short the FINAL SOLUTION consisted of NOTHING MORE than extraditing the Jews out of Germany.


    But you are all posting great conspiracy theories for us!


    (Why does everyone believe in conspiracy theories nowadays?)

    The question is WHY DO YOU BELIEVE IT?


    They sold you wooden nickels and you try to sell them to us!
     
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    Getting back to why people believe conspiracy theories, recent research shows a strong link to narcissism. Narcissism is a self-centered personality style characterized as having an excessive preoccupation with oneself and one's own needs, often at the expense of others.
    narcissism noun - Definition, pictures, pronunciation and usage notes | Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary at OxfordLearnersDictionaries.com Narcissists need attention, and may notice that conspiracy theories get lots of clicks on the internet. Narcissism is charcterized by the need to feel superior, the desire for uniqueness, and gullibility, all of which make the narcissist prone to believe and promote conspiracy theories.

    The narcissists need to stand out and distinguish themselves from the herd attracts them to conspiracy theories which give them access to knowledge few others have. Believing the moon landing was a fake puts them among the select few who can easily see what most others can't. Because narcissists aren't self-reflective, they can be clueless in accepting nonsense.
    Why narcissists are likelier to promote conspiracy theories
    Narcissists Seem Drawn to Conspiracy Theories, But Why?
    Surprising Reasons Why Narcissists Like Conspiracy Theories
    Narcissistic Personality Disorder
    Causes of Narcissism and Egocentric Behavior.
    Signs Of A Narcissist To Look Out For
    https://www.mindbodygreen.com/artic...t-new-research-is-telling-us-about-narcissism
     
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    Geez complimenting yourselves?
     
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    I asked the question:
    Why do you believe in conspiracies? :confused:
    Are you saying you all are narcissists?
    @scratcho posted it and you liked it! :rolleyes:
     
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