Why do you need to be awesome to make lsd?

Still, LSA sure beats bunk LSD, and a hell of a lot easier to make.

 

just make LSA and smoke some dope with it damn ya don't need to jump outta no window or anything. Just whatever you do make sure you use PETROLEUM ether and not ethyl ether otherwise you'll have little multicolored stars that won't go away for rest of your life


"Time is merely an illusion created as a by-product of the human equallibrium."

 

THAT is exactly the reason for his delay. ANYONE who has taken up to Chemistry II in High School can testify that reactions rarely happen perfectly, and the purity even in a large batch can be less than desirable.

A real scientist can take needed procautions to up the purity of the reactions using certain reaction containers and what not to insure complete reactions. This includes proper temperatures, proper preasures, and potentially catalysts. Want proof?

Felix Hoffmann and Arthur Eichengrun were the two scientists responsible for creating Aspirin, but anyone can make aspirin. Any idiot with the proper chemicals can synthesize the stuff, right? It's a simple esterfication reaction where the OH bond from Salicylic Acid reacts with Acetic Anhydride to form Acetylsalicylic Acid and Acetic Acid. Alright, in a perfect world this would work out perfectly and you would have 100 percent yeild, but this never EVER happens.

Everyone in my highschool chemistry class did this reaction and got a maximum purity of about 60 percent. Luckily, in this reaction the other 40 percent is likely going to be powdered Salicylic Acid which has the same effects as Aspirin (as well as knocking the pH of your stomache out of alignment) and is relatively safe, but in the case of other reactions this has the potential to being dangerous as hell. LSD, I have no idea... Either way, you have less product and you'll be selling an inferior compound, potentially.

Hope that helps. Take it from a Chemical Engineering major.

 

Your so called common LSD is an LSA extraction. Thanks for the misinformation. In your follow up post you seem like a down to earth person that believes in better living through chemistry and understanding of the self. Why post erroneous information?

 

actually, it's an acetylation reaction [of the phenolic hydroxy group], not esterification. esterification occurs when reacting an acid halide group with a primary alcohol, a carboxilic acid with a primary alcohol (Fisher Esterification), or a ketone with a peroxy acid, in the presence of a good protonating agent (an acid catalyst). you forgot the H2SO4, or else nothing would happen; activation energy required for the reaction to occur is too high to just react salicylic acid with acetic anhydride, needs an acid catalyst.

..and organic chemists are the ones that make things happen.
chemical engineers just find ways to make money off what the chemists make.

 

How do you make speed?

 

by accelerating.

 

First, you get one of these...

 

hahahaha i saw that on google once

 

That picture also serves as social commentary in that the junior chemist on the right will statistically get detention more often and for longer periods than the junior chemist on the left. Especially in the south...

 

kid on the left already looks high on the fumes.

 

Am I just being stupid here or what? Granted, I have not had any organic chemistry courses, but I've had a year and a half of inorganic chemistry. Maybe I'm missing something very basic, but it seems like this should not be that hard. To synthesize from scratch would be, but lets talk about starting with LSA. Why won't this work?

1. Extract LSA for MG or HBWR or whatever.
2. React the lysergic acid amines with a base of some type - let's say calcium hydroxide for convenience in the next step. This should give the calcium salt of lysergic acid, correct?
3. React this calcium salt of lysergic acid with dilute sulfuric acid. This should give calcium sulfate (which is insoluable) plus lysergic acid.
4. React the resulting lysergic acid with diethylamine in a simple neutralization reaction. While diethylamine is probably not the easiest thing in the world to make, I don't believe it is rocket science either.

 

No, you would get the calcium salt of LSA. While that might get you tripping, it gets you no closer to LSD. Diethylamine can be made by heating ammonia and ethyl iodide under pressure, then distilling. However, I've never had a chemistry class of any kind, so I dunno, give it a try and tell us how it turns out.

 

diethylamine could be procured by ammonia and ethanol plus a catalyst. certainly not rocket science.

but rocket science probably isn't as tricky as protecting a carbonyl attached to a chiral carbon. LSD is stereospecific, and lysergic acid isomerizes with excessively acidic conditions rendering it inactive.

 

I know my chemistry teacher smoked pot, but if only I could make a synthesis request. heh

 

i really like shulgin's synth on tikal.

if one had a makeshift plexiglass fumehood, with gloves and all, and a clean batch of e.t. (which there is also a comprehensive synth), as well as diethylamine which can be made, one could feasibly make the stuff, if one were careful and had precise instruments for monitoring pH and weighing out reagents.

I imagine it'd take a bit of practice, anything worthwhile usually does..but that's the nice thing about procuring the e.t. ... the raw fungi can be reproduced over and over, if you can just find the wild source; it's free.

 

hi, well i have read all the posts and i must say that some guys seem to have a certain understanding of the procedure. my best friend who is a chemist says that all theese procedures MUST be done at a lab, and even then it will be extremely hard to get the stuff you need to transform the stuff to the real ingridients you nedd to make it. i have tried LSD some times in different years and i my experince tells me that real LSD is dead, the lsd that is on the market today is mechanical like to the body, not like the real deal from back then. if anybody can make it please let me know, since my friend would like to take i look at i too. in Denmark it is hard to get lsd, but it can be bought for about 8.- usd. that is about enough for a good trip and i would say it is pretty good and totally clean in fluid. all i know is that it`s made here in Denmark, and some in Germany.

 

Why do all these people chat like they know how to make lsd but when somebody starts a thread asking for a recipe they just go on about being a shit hot chemist, bullshit nobody knows what they are talking about we are all sad teens who cant get hooked up and there for even consider making LSD. nobody knows or somebody would of given a good recipe this guy started a good thread just give him and me a straight answer

 

... you serious. Because its hard... its an easy enough procedure but increadibly precise, you make one tiny mistake you ruin the whole thing there is a link somewhere to a kitchen synth look harder... If i wasnt a lazy asshole i would try it. then again i dont feel like being on a national registry. use google

 

I have to say that real LSD is SWIMS favorite substance.. (Have not seen or ingested any actually half good stuff in nearly ten years) Yes, the chems are a drag to acquire and the proven snth steps are for only those that have some high grade lab skills.... Here's a solution....All you dreamers who want to make LSD at home: First, make up some home made meth... Do that a year or two until you have some skills and a clientele that always comes back for more.. Then, step up to making up some batches of MDMA... Do that a couple of years,, By then, you'll have enough money and lab experience and knowledge to play around with different chems and reactions to make up about 2/3 of all the stuff in PIHKAL/TIHKAL.... With that amount of 'product' for sale; surely someone will step forward and either put the cuffs on your ass for a 50 year prison sentence, or , just maybe, one of the true LSD artists will take you under wing and educate you on all those pesky, truly important synth details.... SQUID