Why do you need to be awesome to make lsd?

lol

nonsense. you'd just have to be well-read, and practiced at the arts (distillation, filtration, isolation, chromotography, etc.)

but to you wannabe chemists: if you want to synth a psychedelic, you'd be better off acquiring ring-substituted styrene, and synthing phenethylamines.

 

polymer: how are you going to be practiced in the arts without some form of education, whether being clandestine from an experienced person or legitimate in a university. I'd say 4 years is a good amount oif time, university, or trailer lol.

 

you don't need a formal education to be erudite/well practiced; I've worked with some people who've had 15+ years experience doing wet chem. procedures for radiation testing (Eberline) , with no college education.

I have college ed under my belt, but it isn't really necessary, depending on the application (i.e. illicit synthesis), though it helps; it also helps to have a proper work environment, with the appropriate equipment

albeit, synthing LSD is fairly involved, it's not quite separating radioactive isotopes.

who the fuck am i kidding...lsd is quite tricky to synth.

 

Yea man some people just don't get it lol, they think some hick who cooks meth can synth L just as easily.

 

LMAO

that's the difference between a 6 year old kid making a ham and cheese sandwich, and trying to make a perfect soufflé (one that doesn't collapse).

one the other hand, there are also chem grads that would also have a tough time making L, especially if they bs'ed their way through labs, and half-assed the techniques

 

d-lysergic acid amide - d-lysergic acid diethylamide

How hard CAN it be?? Shulgin created TONS of chems! He got time to do it! Come on!!

 

But on the other hand, meth is probably kiddy, kiddy-stuff in comparison...

PS: Got any synths from meth to MDMA(3,4-MethyleneDioxyMethAmphetamine). Prob. just easier to make it from the safrole or myristicin though. I'm just a courious soul!

 

BUT! A little note... If you're going to make LSD, don't rush. It may take a week of working... Wouldn't it be worth it? With meth you'll prob. get it with MINIMAL work.

 

i have the whole rhodium archive, and then some. At one point, back in 2000, some people used to think I was Strike (i reside in south/central texas). it is easier just to make it from safrole, or even catechol.

information, in itself, shouldn't be censored... it's what you do with that information that can be incriminating.

 

a few words to the wise:

1) do extractions to get what you're after; most of the time, the organic sources are legal, and the reagents used are easily accessible; reagent precursors are far more suspicious, as are alibis.

(side note: don't try to collect ergot to synth 'cid ...handling ergot is a good way to get gangrene)

2) always pay cash. credit card transaction info becomes fair game to feds, and info is logged into databases like Echelon (if you don't know what that is, google it...it'll open your eyes to what's really going on)

3) don't become caught up in the money game of the black market; that's a sure way to get caught. use your best judgement, and only consult with your closest friends with whom you trust with your deepest secrets.

 

when doctor X synthesized somewhat of LSD, I believe it was totally by accident and I believe he was trying to extract some sort of a mold from wheat. so that might do it

I think you don't need to have a phd in chemistry do do this, but surely as mentioned, you have to have Lots of experiences, see the stuff you are working with, so you know what you are doing. It might say in the instructions that you are trying to get X by following Y into Z, but if you don't know what X even looks like, you might get (exaggerated) green liquid instead of a red solid, etc. In general, chemistry is a very precise science, sometimes error to the 5th decimal Can be serious.

 

No, when Dr. Hofmann synthesized LSD he knew EXACTLY what he was trying to make-lysergic acid diethylamide. It was #25 in a series of compounds created by methodically adding various functional groups onto a lysergic acid skeleton. Good old-fashioned "cut-and-paste" chemistry. The various compounds thus created were then assayed for pharmacological effects by testing on animals.

When LSD was given to the animals, they became agitated and restless, but nothing remarkable (or pharmacologically useful) was seen, so the compound was more or less forgotten about. It was only several years later when Dr. Hofmann made a new batch and accidentally ingested some that the peculiar mental effects of LSD became known. He intentionally took a 250 ug dose a few days later, and the rest is history...

In short, the SYNTHESIS of LSD was no accident. Only the discovery of it's effects on the human mind was...

 

he was trying to develop a lysergamide derivative for migraine treatment (basically Sansert...methysergide), from ergotamine tartrate, and stumbled upon LSD-25s psychoactivity by accident

 

See the problem with everyone saying its "too hard" to get the stuff needed to make it, is that eventually everyone will believe you assholes, and no one will even try. You guys are killing LSD.
Everytime you say its impossible to make, you kill it just a bit more.
I'm pretty sure that if you had a friend with a machining shop, and another friend that was a glass blower, you could MAKE all the necessary equipment. As to the chemicals, it may be a longer process but couldnt you make those also?
And I dont think you would need to be a chemist, if someone wrote fool proof instructions that explained certain terms anyone could do it.
Also if you knew a guy who could make it, he could teach you a method to make it, you wouldnt have to know anything. Just add this, mix this, filter this.
Its like baking. Oh I can't make a chocolate cake because im not a 5star chef? fuck yourself.

 

the problem, more than anything (after looking into it, proving my previous suspicions inaccurate) is getting ergotamine tartrate (It's watched under the Chemical Diversions and Control act), dimethylamine is also very watched.


The molecule is very brittle at the 8-position carboxamide, hence why LSD is a fairly unstable molecule:

"The position of the carboxamide attachment, the 8-position, is affected by basic, or high pH, conditions. Through a process called epimerization, this position can scramble, producing isolysergic acid diethylamide, or iso-LSD. This product is biologically inactive, and represents a loss of a proportionate amount of active product." (Alex Shulgin)

http://www.hallucinogens.com/lsd/

his procedure is not all that hard, I could follow it to a T.. but the environment factor (low lighting..red or yellow lamps, and absolutely precise molar concentrations) is of significant importance, which I've mentioned before. Not the hardest thing to make (synthing Ibogaine makes this look like boiling water), but not the easiest either; there's no room for carelessness.

 

I would agree with this, except for one thing: it also takes practice; because of the margin of error possible from synthing LSD, one must practice precision measurements and titration. It's an art, like cooking.

making something as fragile as LSD is like making a souffle, it takes practice.

 

So you practice. Once you feel you can handle it you could probably make it.
Everyone acts like its impossible, but its been made by a lot of people in the world, and im pretty sure that not all of them were super geniuses with chemistry diplomas from a swiss university.

 

yeh its the word 'impossible' as well as the whole idea that having a phd or degree effects your biological capacity to undertake intructions.

you dont need to know everything about chemistry to make lsd you only need to know teh relevant bits of info that could EASILY be fit into a single book which anyone could read.

i hope people can start to be convinced now that we are at page 8, that the hard part in making lsd is getting the prerequisites, and not the process of manufacture, which is hard, but nothing close to impossible (which is a word thrown around by insecure people all the time to try to apply to other people's abilities)

 

I dont think they'll ever really learn, cops have made them all into tools. You're all victims of reefer madness!

 

not us, but mainstream society; yes, they have been duped by the "war on drugs" propaganda, that goes all the way back to the Anslinger heyday