Why do white people call Black Americans African Americans?

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  1. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    The term Caucasian originally referred to a variety of people who lived in and around Mount Caucasus.

    They were a violent race of troglodyte’s whose skin was white and sensitive to light. They created a vast network of underground caves and would ambush unwary travelers to consume their flesh and drink their blood.


    While Caucasians were spelunking great empires were rising and falling in Persia, Egypt, South America, and China


    Hotwater :2thumbsup:
     
  2. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    No not too randon :2thumbsup:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaUV25Ezf5A"]Family Guy - How God made asians - YouTube



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  3. odonII

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    To a certain degree, yes.
    Although, a lot less than you are.
    I do tend to try and stick to the topic of the thread.

    I ask because in another thread you were saying you called white and black folk the N word.
    People that you considered 'lowlife' (or whatever word you used in the other thread)...
    And that you didn't call some black folk the N word because they were the 'good' kind of black folk.
    You also mentioned your black friends (who I presume you don't refer to with the N word)...
    In this thread you are saying: 'them' and 'they'
    So, I'm asking who 'they' and 'them' are.
    I don't think that is an unreasonable question to ask.

    Are you saying that all the black people where you are from are referred to by everybody else as the N word?
    I doubt that.

    Sometimes you make sense, and other times you just sound like a hypocrite who doesn't know what he thinks.

    I shall paraphrase what you said in your earlier post:

    'Hey dumb bastards of the hipforums, you don't know shit. This is how it is, motherfuckers.'

    And then you went onto explain the definitive version of how we got to 'African American'

    Now it's:

    'I may not be 100% technically "correct" but what I have said is pretty accurate as the "man on the street" perspective.'

    Which is a bit different, isn't it?

    I understand :)
     
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  5. sunfighter

    sunfighter Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Why not? My skin color is whiter than other races. I don't mind being called "white". I identify as an American, not a European, even tho all my ancestors came from there.

    In the long run, we're probably all going to merge into a "light brown" and there won't really be races any more. Of course, conservatives hate this idea and it's one of their reasons for opposing immigration.
     
  6. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    is there something broken in your brain that are unable to comprehend anything you can't Google?

    My initial post was because rather than anybody actually addressing the question head on, the thread became yet another stupid platform for a bunch of racist crap.

    I was going to regale you with a barrage of insults, but I feel sorry for the socially retarded, so you get a pass this time.
     
  7. Indy Hippy

    Indy Hippy Zen & Bearded

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    Actually if you'd tried to understand my first post ^above man. You'd see that the problem was addressed before you'd came along. I'll slim it down for you so that you may see, if you so choose. Ego has always defined racism, at it's very core. One man believes himself to be better than another and therefore he plants the seed of bigotry into his own mind. Furthermore man, when others try to cover up racism with less "offensive" words we wind up making it worse. To call one an African American may not be overtly racist but it still separates that person from other people. It is still a very diluted form of racism. When taken to the extent of believing that that other country or the people from it are inferior, and that yours is better, it is called chauvinism. Often human intentions have a deep seated duality which here can be seen in the separation of people by more reasonable means to avoid conflict, and the conflicting human desire to separate to show inequity.
     
  8. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    yeah, but your answer is a little out there and so general and vague that it could be applied to a huge variety of social and interpersonal issues.

    Didn't I point out that throughout history these different terms all have ultimately become to be considered derogatory?

    I really don't know what you think you are "educating" me about here, what you presented is all very basic and obvious, at least from my perspective, so what was your point again?

    Maybe you could have a look into the actual history behind the terms, considering that is much more succinct and in line with the original question.
     
  9. Indy Hippy

    Indy Hippy Zen & Bearded

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    Occam's Razor. If you wish to search for more complicated understanding then that is your decision, but to complicate something is to understand it less. The truth of what was said is so simple yet so correct that it needs not be complicated further
     
  10. Asmodean

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEHhWPXunJM"]yabby u & wayne wade - oh what an oppression - YouTube

    My forefathers came from Africa,
    Brought here as a slave.
    How can I have an Englishman's name?

    The white man, the chiney man,
    The Indians and the Syrians,
    All nations have their own names.

    They robbed us of our culture,
    They robbed us of our language,
    They robbed us of our women, our music taken away.

    Oh why, oh why, what an oppression, oh God, oh Lord.
    Oh why, oh why, what an oppression.

    It's more than 400 years,
    We're livin' in this western hemisphere,
    Still we just can't reach nowhere.

    Babylon just have us right here, living in fear,
    Babylon don't even care.

    They robbed us of our culture,
    They robbed us of our language,
    They robbed us of our wealth, our strength taken away.

    Oh why, oh why, what an oppression, oh Jah.
    Oh why, oh why, what an oppression.
     
  11. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    :rolleyes:

    great, another self-proclaimed "guru" type.:sultan:
    Lot's of pretty words that carry little substance.


    No, in real life you do have to consider the different layers of complexity in human interactions and the universe at large.
    Throwing out tired and abused cliches' as a blanket answer is lazy and reflects a shallow mind, IMHO.
     
  12. Indy Hippy

    Indy Hippy Zen & Bearded

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    I never claimed to be more knowledgeable than the next man. I only stated my personal knowledge.
    As you wish, complicate it then, as always people with your viewpoint will solve nothing. You push against a mountain instead of trying to understand it. Thought such as yours is what is ruining our people. Some of the greatest things have been discovered thanks to it, but yet it is killing us at the same time. Also you apparently don't realise that you too are a walking cliche, your viewpoint is the same as much of the modern world and when you speak you only speak what you percieve.
     
  13. LetLovinTakeHold

    LetLovinTakeHold Cuz it will if you let it

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    The original question wasn't about the history of the term, where it came from or why. It was about present day use of the term and why it differs from other races.

    I would have presented it in greater detail if I would have known the thread would grow like it has.
     
  14. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    What he is saying, Indy, is that maybe your post hold the ultimate truth but you are not sharing anything if you put it too vaguely, or choose cliché sentences. It goes over peoples head because it can be interpreted in so many different ways it does not makes anything clearer in the current topic. At least, that's how it comes across to me. Not saying you don't have a clear picture of what you are saying, but why say it like that if no one else gets the same out of it :p Yeah, communication can be a drag. Look at Aximenes for example. I'm sure he has many insights to share as well.
     
  15. Indy Hippy

    Indy Hippy Zen & Bearded

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    I don't see how my words can be mistaken. We use words to describe what we know, we use words to separate, to bring together, to acknowledge, to "create" to "destroy", everything has a label. When that label is created for the express purpose of discriminating, like African-American, it is taking on the same dual form of expression. This does not however make discrimination inherently bad, humans do. How is this cliche? Is it not a perfectly understandable thought?
     
  16. Asmodean

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    But you see that they are being mistaken nevertheless. You don't see how some of your more thedope like posts can miss its point when another person reads it?
     
  17. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    LOL,
    again a lot of words, but you really didn't say much of anything. :rolleyes:
    what mountain am I pushing against?
    what thought is ruining what people, and how?
    some of the greatest things have been discovered thanks to WHAT?
    please explain how I am a walking cliche', and please refrain from using more tired cliches' to do so.
    I speak only what I perceive, yeah, so does everyone else in the world, so your point is....???


    I'm not complicating anything, I'm considering it from a real and rational viewpoint. That does not negate any understanding I may possess concerning the underlying psychological, emotional, interpersonal, social and cultural sources of these manifested behaviors.

    apparently you don't see that you are yourself a sad cliche' of a stereotypical "hippy" and it feels as if you are working hard to pull it off.
    stop speaking in tired one liner cliche's that you think impart wisdom, but in this crowd...yawn.:sleeping:
    most want to hear it in your own original thoughts.


    you have absolutely no idea who I am or what my paradigm consists of, you just think it is in opposition to yours, which I promise you it isn't.

    we probably share more ideas in common than you think ;)
     
  18. Indy Hippy

    Indy Hippy Zen & Bearded

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    The mountain that you have made for yourself. I cannot see that mountain, only you can, therefore only you can answer this question.
    The current cosmic thought. The thought that we understand anything at all. Then in conjunction the thoughts that stem from such. It ruins us because it creates in us a spark of ego, and a spark of fear.
    You already know the answer. Please do not try and be argumentative. It achieves nothing.
    I already explained how you were a walking cliche.
    You describe the effects of the problem not the root. When you cut a weed from the ground you must first dig the root out to ensure it doesn't grow back correct?

    My days of claiming to be a hippy have been over for many many years. That is only what other people choose to call me man. I am me, and my words and expression are my own. After several long years of unlearning I have found myself. You do hear my original thoughts for no one else on the planet has them exactly as I do.

    I never said we were in opposition, you insinuated that yourself my friend. I simply showed you that the question had been answered before and you were not satisfied with that answer.
     
  19. dreamsDOcomeTRUE

    dreamsDOcomeTRUE KYTLIVE

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    this is the most ignorant thing ever said
     
  20. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    more relatively empty words
    and I must have missed your explanation...

    you are in error making the assumption that we were discussing a "problem". As far as I can see, the OP was asking about a specific term and how/why it is used in America and not elsewhere. I attempted an answer to the OP's question as asked, you have not.
    If you cannot see that distinction, I suggest you brush up on your reading comprehension skills.


    Oh, I got your answer and was satisfied as such, problem is you didn't answer the OP's question, just expressed an opinion concerning racism.
    Not the same thing.
     
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