Why do we ignore the homeless?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by QueerPoet, Oct 29, 2010.

  1. ChronicTom

    ChronicTom Banned

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    So then, instead of playing games, how about you just answer the question of why you said that?
     
  2. QueerPoet

    QueerPoet Senior Member

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    I already have. But you're not happy with the answer. Big time.

    QP

    P.S. You have an odd way of seeking praise. What's up with that? :confused:
     
  3. ChronicTom

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    No, actually what you said was to tell me to figure it out for myself. Are you secretly a politician who won't support their statements with actual ideas?

    As for me seeking praise... you just 100% proved my point...

    Someone is offering homeless people a chance to have their own home, and you equate it to seeking praise... Because nobody could just be offering to help because they want to help right? Might I suggest that you are letting your own image of yourself color the way you look at other people... Just because you may not do something without looking for priase, doesn't mean that is everyone motives...

    The point of me pointing out my offer was not to get praise, it was to make clear that all the TALK of helping homeless people is more important to a lot of people then actually helping them.

    Instead of constantly shooting down people who are helping (whether or not you like the way they are doing it) why isn't your thought one of... oh look another helping hand for people who need it?

    You have issues with the religious people helping in return for asking people to listen to them (nobody said you had to actually take anyting from what they say)... You have issues with non religious people helping because they are obviously just out seeking praise...

    So tell me then... exactly who is it that is good enough for your standards to help people who need it?
     
  4. QueerPoet

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    Projection becomes you. Not. We're done.

    QP
     
  5. ChronicTom

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  6. QueerPoet

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    That's one of the reasons I suggest folks consider buying newspapers from the homeless. It's a dignified solution. And it really does help homeless folks to save up enough money to rent a room. :)

    QP
     
  7. Geriatric Delinquent

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    Offering soup for apostasy has been going on since Abraham played full-back for Bethesda. Even though I couldn't give a flying fuck for any faith, I think that tempting starving people with a bowl of watery turnip soup is lower than shark shit.

    The stupid pricks that do so don't know you'll catch more flies with sugar than you do with vinegar. For instance, to this day I have a lot of time for a C of E outfit called the Brotherhood of St Laurence. These people were prominent in my slum neighbourhood of inner Melbourne. They helped the destitute with food, clothing, etc, without a word about who they were. Even my old man, a Communist, wouldn't hear a word spoken against them.

    Because of people like these I'm willing to concede there are religious people that dedicate their lives to helping society's down-and-outs, including the druggies and drunks, because they are truly compassionate. Just as there were/are compassionate Communists and Nazis who ministered to their social misfits. Although I wonder 'bout the numbers of the latter who stooped low enough to include the universally detest drunks and druggies. :hide:
     
  8. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Whenever a panhandler asks me for a hand-out, I turn and tell 'em, "Oh man, I was about to ask you the same thing." The look on their face is priceless.
     
  9. Geriatric Delinquent

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    I take it you don't use alcohol or drugs, FBC?
     
  10. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    What would bring you to THAT conclusion?

    Panhandlers dirty up my city and harass people. Killing the tourist industry and bad for local businesses. Fuck 'em.
     
  11. JackFlash

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    I don't think anyone has ever tried this, but, your city could find an empty building, fix it up and call it something like, maybe, "homeless shelter." You could even put a kitchen in it and, wow, ideas flowing, call it the "soup kitchen." Bare with me, I'm on a roll here; I'll bet you could get area restaurants to donate their left over food, maybe some psychologists and doctors could donate some time each week to help them get back on their feet. Damn, I'm good. You could even put a phone there and some showers and these people could have an address, get cleaned up and have a phone number to put on job applications.

    Of course, this is all just a "rough draft," but I'm sure somebody there could iron out the details.

    Just think, if you make the proposal, help with organizing, They could call it the "Fueled by Coffee center for rehabilitation" with a big plaque on the Wall.

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  12. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    My city has plenty of those things.

    I don't give money directly to panhandlers no more ever since I witnessed from a restaurant window, a panhandler outside of Costco, pack up for the night. He took a bottle of water out of his jacket, dampened a rag, washed all the dirt off his face. Removed a tattered jacket, revealing decent street clothes, threw his panhandling props in the bed of a brand new Toyota Tacoma, and drove off.

    Keep giving to panhandlers and you'll just bring more to the area.
     
  13. Geriatric Delinquent

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    There is a sign that hangs in many A.A, and N.A. meeting rooms that simply says “YET” which stands for You're Eligible Too. Never forget that you ain't dead ….YET.
     
  14. Psilo_Cybin

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    I for one think we should turn the homeless into winter tires, make them use full and practical for winter time.
     
  15. Individual

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    Some things are best dealt with on a case by case basis.
     
  16. QueerPoet

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    LOL. You're so good at this. :2thumbsup: I personally think your idea is an excellent one. But certain recent comments prove - some folks think homeless people are not worthy of understanding or compassion. It's much easier to think of them as criminals.

    QP
     
  17. QueerPoet

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    And we all know the Almighty dollar is more valuable than human beings.

    QP
     
  18. QueerPoet

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    Right on. I totally agree. :)

    QP
     
  19. Individual

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    In some cases that is true. Whose money are you referring to; your own or that of others?
     
  20. QueerPoet

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    I was being facetious. Personally, I value people more than money. I've never understood the value of materialism. It tends to make people greedy. If a street person asks me for spare change, I never turn the person down. And I am far from rich. Also, I always buy a copy of the recent homeless paper, whenever I encounter a street person selling them. I believe in supporting those that are less fortunate than myself. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that I was homeless during my youth. Experience makes all the difference.

    QP
     

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