why do they wanna roll so much?

Discussion in 'Cannabis and Marijuana' started by underground04, Jun 13, 2005.

  1. headymoechick

    headymoechick I have no idea

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    YES IT'S ALL A MYTH!
    STOP BUYING INTO DARE BULLSHIT!!!

    None of these drugs you have mentioned puts holes in your brain. not Ecstacy, not meth, not LSD.

    They do have negative side effects, like any drug. But none of these have PROVEN to put "holes" in your brain. Even pot is bad for you. Smoking anything is dangerous. So I think you people should stop being so hypocritical and start educating yourself. Learn the real deal about these drugs.
     
  2. digitalldj

    digitalldj Canucks ftw!

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    from somone who posts typically smart comments, i'm suprised of how stupid this one is.

    E is definatly one of the dirtier drugs, because u have no idea whats in it, color means shit all, There could be rat poison in it and it could still be any color, doesnt matter.

    the only way are those chemical tests ppl do at raves, and even those are somewhat sketchy because who knows what the ppl who are testing are up to? as well those tests only check to see if X is actually present, not if anything else is in it.

    none of u are doctors so u shouldnt be sayin shit so as what E does to your brain or it doesnt, because u have no idea, just cause some stoner website says it's effects are minimal means nothing

    as well, the REALLY stupid ppl will tell u, oh yea, Blue = mixed with coke, Pink = Pure X, Green = Meth

    buddy, u think that some fuck head down in Florida is using the exact same recipe as a crack head brewing a batch in Nova Scotia? i think not.
     
  3. Jointman69

    Jointman69 High Nigga Pie

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    i think you need to add this to your sig dj
     
  4. digitalldj

    digitalldj Canucks ftw!

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    just for all u that think only the goverment is telling u bad things about E:

    [Taken from: Rutgers University Science Facility]

    What does the research show?

    Experiments with squirrel monkeys have shown brain damage by MDMA, serotonin-producing nerve fibers regrew abnormally in some brain regions and failed to regrow at all in others. Heavy users of Ecstasy may be risking brain damage that remains long after the high has worn off.

    Other Research findings indicate that using ecstasy causes long-lasting damage to brain areas that are critical for thought and memory.

    What are the health hazards?

    Ecstasy users may encounter problems similar to those experienced by amphetamine and cocaine users, including addiction. Physical effects include muscle tension, eye wiggles, auditory effects, next-day fatigue, involuntary teeth clenching, nausea, blurred vision, faintness, and chills or sweating. Increases in heart rate and blood pressure are a special risk for people with circulatory or heart disease.

    Ecstasy-related fatalities at raves (extended all night parties) have been reported. The stimulant effects of the drug which enable the user to dance for extended periods, combined with the hot, crowded conditions usually found at raves can lead to dehydration, hyperthermia, and heart and kidney failure. An overheated, dehydrated body slowly "bakes" the internal organs and shuts down body functions. Death can result from overheating which causes kidney or cardiovascular failure.

    [Taken from Bryn Mawr College, Ontario Can.]

    The long-term effects of ecstacy use are still relatively unknown. One current theory is that ecstacy is a neurotoxin, meaning it causes permanent brain damage and psychiatric disorders later in life. Much of the current press on this issue is exaggerated, but studies have shown that MDMA degenerates the serotonin axons of lab animals. So far, studies of frequent human users (75 times or more) have shown reduced brain serotonin levels and reduced serotonin uptake. No signs of cognitive or psychological problems were noted. Evidence regarding the memory loss associated with ecstacy use is inconclusive. It is still unknown whether this is due to neurotoxicity or temporary changes in brain chemistry that correct themselves with time

    [Taken from Oxford Univ, UK]

    The long-term effects of ecstasy use are not yet known. Ecstasy's chemical cousin, MDA, destroys cells that produce serotonin in the brain. These cells help to regulate aggression, mood, sexual activity, sleep, and sensitivity to pain. Methamphetamine, also similar to Ecstasy, damages brain cells that produce dopamine. It is quite possible that ecstasy can also damage brain cells.
    Scientists have found that ecstasy makes the brain's nerve branches and endings degenerate. It also makes them regrow abnormally - failing to reconnect with some brain areas and connecting elsewhere with the wrong areas. These reconnections may be permanent, resulting in damage to various brain functions, changes in emotion, learning or memory.
     
  5. underground04

    underground04 Member

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    just the other night i was hanging with some friends and i was stoned and they were taking x. i didnt get it, they were sitting in a hot room, listening to shitty techno music and playing with glow sticks. i usually suspect research as being bias but i think theres a lot of fact in those articles. the one guy who rolls constantly is an insomniac and he never stops moving. i would try it sometime just to know what its like but im afraid im gonna be one of those fuck heads whos like "DUDE! LETS GET ROLLS!"
     
  6. headymoechick

    headymoechick I have no idea

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    well, for as correct as the information you found from a good source is, a lot of what you just posted is crap as well. There are MANY health organizations thatt have not been CONCLUSIVE in the effects that MDMA has on a HUMAN brain. There are a lot of theories, but no proof. Even in the article you posted, it doesn't state that these effects happen 100% of the time, it doesn't state the variables in the monkeys' health, and it doesn't state the variables in activity.

    Now for example, the retards who take more than 1 pill, dance all night without water, and don't take care of thier body.. of course they're going to get sick and a lot of damage is done to the body. I never said that that didn't happen. I said MDMA doesn't put holes in your brain. But if you take a person that does a small dose, and relaxes and enjoys the high, drinks water and breathes fresh air, the effects are dramaticallly different on your body. A school's science department isn't going to tell you that the monkeys who chilled out and were given sufficiant nutrients did not experience the exact same side effects.

    Again, anything can be used responsibly.

    Let me clear up something by saying I never stated that the few websites and organizations that can give you information on what is in the pill also gives information on side effects. So if you're going to call one of my statements stupid- get it right.;)

    By the way, your little color chart as to what's in what is totally off. Don't spew information that can be proven flase, ok?
     
  7. TheSanityAssassin

    TheSanityAssassin Member

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    Holes or no holes, I can tell you for a fact that x will most definitely fry your brain if you do it too much. I have a couple of friends who got pretty heavy into it, and you can really tell that it's affected them. One of them is constantly confused, he can't get a sentence out properly without stumbling over his words, or saying the wrong word, and it's been months since he's popped a pill.
     
  8. underground04

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    Beleg Member

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    ALL drugs are dangerious if used enough, even pot. Basicly anything is.
     
  10. sacrament32

    sacrament32 Member

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    doesnt e also replace like a chemical in ur brain so that it can't reproduce as much of it then ur depressed a lot
     
  11. digitalldj

    digitalldj Canucks ftw!

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    E causes your brain to release huge amounts of serotonin which without the drug is only given off in tiny doses, with prolonged use u will eventually drain it to the point where it takes months to regain
     
  12. digitalldj

    digitalldj Canucks ftw!

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    that is PURE MDMA, 90% of E sold on the street is not pure. and i'm pretty sure poping Drano or Ajax laced E will eventually put holes in your brain :p




    I was just using those colors as examples to what people say, they had no truth to them at all, i would not know color codes of E because it's not a big concern of mine.
     
  13. digitalldj

    digitalldj Canucks ftw!

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    BTW, i love having the first post on a new page, really helps to get your point across lol
     
  14. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

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    haha and you did switch to o's. well, fractions of o's of weed :rolleyes:

    dont worry the game doesnt have to be smart to be entertaining, at least for the players

    *chuckle*
     
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