Why do so many str8 folks assume ALL gay men are into anal?

Ah, add this to my above post. Sometimes my physical bod is not up to what my mind may want.

Right now I am battling with myself whether to get another motorcycle and hit the road. I did that in 1973 on a Honda 450. I dumped it a couple of times. Can I do that at age 65 as well as I did it at 30, or will I be laid up instead of just getting up, dusting off and running back to my bike to assess the damage.

Riding a motorcycle was dangerous back in '73 and long road trips a bit uncomfortable. with 35 additional years on my body I know it would be more dangerous and don't even know if I am physically capable of sitting in the saddle all day doing 500 miles or more.

It is crazy, but I have this urge to do it. My rebellious nature is fighting against my old bod. Perhaps I didn't learn enuf in my youth.

 

you, Shale, seem to be having quite an OK attitude towards aging, judging by your posts on these forums. you're not in denial about your physical age. some guys who say "i'm 60 but my mind is 20" are. and QueerPoet used the word 'purely' and i don't agree with that. age is not purely a state of mind.
my point is, even if you feel like a 15-year-old in a 60 years old body, you should also recognize your physical age, not just that of your mind.


i've watched Twilight and for me it's completely boring. it's that i've already been there, and it's gotten old, i can't identify with that anymore. when i was a teen i went through a phase where i watched movies and listened to bands i'm ashamed to admit to -- my reaction to those things at 15 is shame at 26. but then again, i didn't only watch/listen to stuff that i have long left behind, a lot has stuck with me. For example one of my favorite artists back then and now was Bruce Springsteen. i was 4 when i started listening to him, and i practically grew up on his music. and i'm proud of that. so i haven't lost touch with what i used to enjoy as a teen, but when i look back at myself at 15 at 26 - i can safely say my mind is not 15 even though i am still the same person i was back then.

 

A man's biggest sex organ is...his brain.

Imagination is hot, hot, hot.

 

Sorry, but I am a long way from my sixties. Forties would be much more the case. Besides, who's to say that guys in their sixties/seventies ARE NOT still sexualy active/attractive? Are you all of a sudden the "Age" king? I hope you are rational enough to realize that we all (if we're lucky) get older and wiser as the years pass. You have always struck me as an intelligent and informed "younger" person, etc. So I hope your words are merely a slip. But please know this -- getting older in the land of the young -- happens. And one fine day, you will be sixtysomething. And that is a blessing, far from a curse. Yeah, age is what you make of it. Big time.

--QP

 

BTW, Shale is living proof that age is a state of mind: Just check out his awesome pics on my 3 things I did today (thread) -- the dude totaly rocks. I admire his zest and passion for life. Age is only a personal fiction. Some twentysomething dudes cannot do all the really cool stuff Shale does on a regular basis. I mean, just take a long peek at those life affirming pics. And life is all.

--QP

 

I totally agree. Big time.

--QP

 

i think they try to draw simularitys to straight sex, and dont think about other ways stimulation can happen between to guys

 

60 was an abstract example. i wasn't talking about you, i was talking in general terms. i understand what you're saying, i don't disagree that some guys are youthful even in their old age. that wasn't my point. what i disagreed with was what you said that 'age is purely a state of mind'. it would imply that the physical changes that happen with time do not pertain to the concept of age at all. that it's just the mentality that the word 'age' denotes. i can't agree with that. i see age mainly as something physical. and the mental part its derivative.

do you perceive age as something separate from the physical body?

another thing -- you've been in 20s, you should know what it's like -- you feel like you'll live forever. no physical limits due to aging have yet appeared. you're in excellent health, all the possibilities in the world are open to you. you should remember what it's like to look at 60 from 26 -- you feel like that doesn't touch you. so, at 26 it's natural for me to equate age with physical changes, because everything is still changing for the better and i identify with this physical energy that my age provides me with. once that turns around and the mental/intellectual part of it is the only thing still changing for the better i might change my perspective.
sorry if i've been offensive.

 

How Eloquent (damn you - had to remind me )

But that is about it, a young man's mindset and I can remember. Didn't have health insurance on many jobs or during jobless times - and didn't even think about it, much less be concerned. The future wasn't planned or even thought about, just unfolded one day at a time.

Until you reach a point when you realize you have more history than future. Now there is a more reflective mindset one of sorting out all that experience (and maybe picking up a few more that were missed).

 

LOVE Springsteen. And his insightful lyrics still ring true. Why do you think age is such an issue? Art is timeless: I question your superior attitude. Dude, how old are you? Are you superior to history? If that's the case, do you think all hippies are two thumbs down? Was Bob Dylan just something only fifteen year olds listened to in the sixties? No, the man's message lives on in 2009. And history is better because of it. Much, much better. Springsteen's songs will be around -- long after you and I are mere dust in the wind. Consider that fact. It makes me totally humble. How about you, friend? :cheers2:

--QP

 

i never said i was superior to history or anything. if you interpreted my enjoyment and love of life as that then i don't know what to say. i thought i was talking about my personal attitude toward age, not the question of Springsteen's immortality which he most certainly has achieved.

 

Very well said, Shale. And with much honesty and truth. But in defense of our younger critic: "Tomorrow never happens, man. It's all the same fucking day, man."--Janis Joplin

In other words, I can see his side of the matter: I remember my glorious youth.

--QP

 

Okay, I'm cool w/that. Sorry about the misunderstanding. My guess is that I was not clear enough about what I meant by age being purely a state of mind. I've known gay dudes in their thirties -- that think they are over the hill, etc. At 30? That is tragic. And our culture only helps to make young folks feel old before their time. Twentysomething is hot. Thirtysomething is not. Imagine how that makes a sixtysomething dude feel? That's what I meant. Again, sorry for the misunderstanding. May we all grow old and wise. Big time.

--QP

P.S. I'm 45.

 

Just keep digging, deeper & deeper. :toetap05:

No, I know what yer saying and we 60-somethings have to deal with that wrinkled loose skin that no longer fits, chicken neck (which I have actually reduced in some digital fotos) diminishing muscle mass and the ability to really peg some cute guy who wants it up the ass so badly (Oops, not entirely a stereotype - but some gay guys just live to get it in the ass)

On MySpace, Shale is an old perv who flirts with a lot of boys. Go check out my profile page and you will see that my Top 40 Friends is a montage of mostly bare chested boys.
http://www.myspace.com/shalespace


Here's just 8 of 'em



A lot of them I saw their cute profile pic and asked them to add, which they did. However, I discovered to my delight that there is a whole bunch of cute boys who are turned on by an old "Sexy Daddy" and have requested me to add them. What an ego boost to know that you are still considered appealing by the very boys whose bod you so want to touch.

I actually did do a 20-year-old boy back when I was 60. A 40-year age spread is considered disgusting by some ppl, but he and I both enjoyed it so it was special. (Forget that I have grandsons his age)

So, now and then I connect with an actual boy who appreciates my old ass (And I really appreciate his young ass). In the meantime, the boys I will likely never meet, still flirt with me and it is fun, a little ego boost to allay the reality of my aging bod.
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From: matty boy -18 years old

i love older guys idk why though lol
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From: seth -20 years old

well dude your the hottest old guys i have ever seen
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From: bboy triple -18 years old

oooooohhhhhhhh baby!!!!!!
i wanna see this pic with out underwear!!!!!!!!!!
cause u r so handsome!!!!!!!!!!!!
(Oh yes, we've sent pix to each other if they really are 18)
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From: O.P. -18 years old

I LIKE YOUR DEFAULT AND THINK ITS HOT. I LIKE OLDER MEN LIKE YOU SO YEAH LOLZ. WOULD LOVE TO BE YOUR FOOT SLAVE =] YOU SHOULD COME TO JAX SOMETIME


Here's my default profile pic that drives some cute boys crazy for old Sexy Grandaddy.

 

ill testify to that

 

I tend to agree with what you say. But I was originally concerned about several rather odd threads about how gay men love to abuse their own asses. So I was being specific, not general. I'm starting to think it was all a huge joke. I never meant to say all straight folks think like that. Although it might seem like that when -- taken out of context. Live and learn.

--QP

 

I think it's because you look much younger than you actually are. Plus you have such a positive attitude (and are not shy). People respond to that.

--QP

 

Whoah, this thread has gone far off topic. If I may pull it back...

Actually, anal is a fairly new trend. It happened throughout history, but it was never preferred to intercrural and other types of frottage until the last few decades. Before advances in hygeine and health care, it really wasn't practical at all. The Greeks and Romans usually did intercrural, as well as Wilde, and of course Abraham Lincoln wrote about his lover's "perfect thighs".

Now we've got indoor plumbing, and soap, and are able to douche. So it's can be a lovely hole to fuck. But between its emphasis in porn, and straight peoples' inclination to think everybody's sex life is like the kind they do, I think they do get an exaggerated idea about how often guys do it. The preparation necessary is a little bit of a deterrent, sometimes you just don't want to bother, so go with the cleaner and more spontaneous options.

 

i think i know one thread you were talking about, and im 99.999999% sure that one atleast was a joke, but either way, i think its just ignorence to learn into the matter, theyre not gay and they find it wierd/odd/what ever so they just let their minds wander and think these things up.

 

Damn, you managed to cover a lot of ground: The Greeks and Romans, Oscar Wilde, and Abe Lincoln (my favorite resident of the White House)! This is one hell of an insightful comment.

What you say makes perfect sense. Anal always seemed like a huge bother to me. And oral was actually something I enjoyed a lot more. Plus so much less fuss and bother. Also, in the early eighties -- anal sex was considered a big AIDS risk. Most folks in my age group avoided it for that reason alone. So there was not a lot of anal activity at the time. Perhaps it's different now? But I still can't imagine all gay men prefer anal -- to the exclusion of everything else. As you and Shale said: There's so many other ways of having gay sex. I mean, Abe Lincoln could not have been wrong.

--QP