why do people eat animal flesh?

Heh, theres a twist on baby back ribs.

Now thats a no tresspassing sign to be feared,,,

Dang, now I hafta watch Silence of the Lambs again.
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I eat animal flesh because every time I try to eat human flesh my mom activates my shock collar and hits me with a studded mace.

 

Heywood, is that you in the background here?:

 

meat tastes good, and hey. Plants are alive, too- eating plants is "murder", as well, if you wanna get all technical about it. Animals have eaten eachother since the beginning of time and aren't we animals, too?
I respect vegetarians and don't push eating meat to anyone. but if they get all pushy and snarky because I eat meat, I must say, I have quite the argument ready to fire back.

 

I think most fanatic meateaters could do with a bit less in a week, but otherwise everyone should leave eachother with it. You're not better at all if you eat no meat though, I know some veggies really see it like this, and that's a very silly thought. As in most things it's about moderation, even with meat

 

^ EXACTLY. I love that veggie folks are into it, and dedicated to it. that's great! I just hate it when they try to make me feel like crap for eating meat, or are all "holier-than-thou" about themselves. Please.

 

it is not a holier then thou concept it's simply a different set of morals and a line of selfishness to selflessness that the majority of people don't cross.
It's human nature to be selfish, so I don't "look down" on anyone for it but to not accept that meaties simply care less is ignorant.

SURE we're animals, but the difference now is that many of these animals ate eachother to survive, and that we no longer have to, and that it's no longer a game of survival of the fittest it's a game of haha I caught you now you and all of your offspring are mine to be inhumanely raised robbed of ever living free and genetically manipulated.,, MUCH MUCH different then an animal taking another free animals life whom has atleast enjoyed life to some extent.


Like I said this thread is a complete failure and is going nowhere.

 

you are looking down on us by saying we care less..

as has been stated before in this thread,i as well as many other meat eaters believe that ALL living things are created equal. that includes fruits and vegetables.
so unless you are a true vegan who only eats what does not kill the plant to harvest IMO you are a hypocrite..

 

As long as we're stretching things,,,

So by eating meat, we Omnivores are reducing the amount of vegetation in our diets taken in directly, therefore reducing the overall impact of Fauna on the Flora by not only mixing our diet but keeping other plant eating animal populations in check and leaving MORE Flora to grow and do it's thing cleaning the atmosphere and producing Oxygen as opposed to simply having all the Fauna eat all the Flora and pollute the atmosphere with even more Methane.
I mean looking at it from your perspective drummin, Veganism doesn't sound all that environmentally friendly to me.


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This whole thread was started with the purpose of looking down on people who eat meat.

It begins by separating people who eat meat and those who don't into different categories, and then actually implies that anyone who eats meat is slow or bizarre or something (ie: 'do they think they can gain mystical powers?').

This is because there is always a certain type of vegetarian who walks around feeling like they deserve something for their 'sacrifice' and 'conviction'. They want nothing more than to hear some meat-eating monster say to them 'I wish I could be like you, but I just can't give it up. You are so powerful and strong for not eating meat, and I am weak and a slave to my primitive, cruel, unthinking animal desires.'

The poster above actually went so far as to create the term 'meaties' to separate vegetarians from the rest of humanity. Then drumminmama actually compared people who eat meat to animals who can't control themselves, and who rape and kill.

I mean, fair enough if you don't want to do something, but to go around preaching about how it's unnatural and wrong and cruel, and trying to guilt everyone into being like you is obnoxious.

Are you saying it's impossible to understand why someone would enjoy eating meat??? Considering most of the people in the world do it, I don't think so. You know as well as I do that the west is raised eating meat. My parents did it, my parents' parents did it, and so on... and they all probably enjoyed eating it. It's not like it's so hard to figure out.

It's the way the world works-- living things feed on other living things. The problem isn't that humans eat meat, it's that there are just way too many people in the world right now. This also means that there are more meat-producing animals in the world than there otherwise would have been. In fact, when you think about it, most of those animals owe their existence to the fact that they are going to be eaten by us... and for this reason, they aren't going to go extinct like a lot of the animals we DON'T eat...

 

Well alot of the desolate regions in the world are that way for the simple sake of Agricultural practices without any thought given to sustainability, just slash and burn, most of which was done to ship fresh veggies year round to guess who?? They werent restricted in the use of certain pestecides and fertilizers which we found to have a detrimental effect on the long term sustainability of farmland, stuff like DDT and so forth. Nasty as all hell on the ecosystem and it wiped most of theirs out alongside simply over-farming by folks who had little clue as to what crop rotation is. But yet I'll bet you a bushel of home grown green peppers that they still use that crap in what little is left of their farmable soil. And even vegtables aren't unafflicted by farming techniques designed only for abundance of crop without any concern given to actual nutritional content, just More, Bigger and Prettier... Just think back to what Strawberries, Corn, Tomatos or nearly anything else you picked up in the store used to taste like when you were a kid, every 10 years it gets a bit closer to styrofoam.

But I certainly sympathise on the part of Factory-farming of cattle. Pumping them with Hormones and Antibiotics which have been shown to pass along right into those who eat it, hence the trend over the past 20 years of 12 year old's with double D's and weakened autoimmune systems. And as if to add insult to injury we force them to spend most of their lives in a space not much bigger than the average walk in closet. I'm kinda lucky, I know the Cow's I'm eating are corn fed and pasture raised.

It could be all fixed thru Permaculture techniques, the cycle of life occouring as nature intended it to more or less, with a few simple assistances by the hand of man. No need for Steroids in our Beef or Frankenfood growing in fields and spreading to the other farms. Of course it would require more of the folks in the world to take part in the Agricultural Industry for it to be feasable, which would also require a diet that would supply a generous amount of Carbohydrates and Calories to provide the energy required for the hard work to be done. But thats the stumbling block on our path to salvation right there isn't it, that dirty little phrase Hard work which Pop culture keeps telling us is some sort of a bad thing, or menial and beneath us,,, much better to get things pre-packaged and spoon fed as we scurry about chasing our lil' nuggets of Bling in the never ending cycle of self gratification... Chronic ailments on the rise, Diabetes, Cancers and Reproductive defects left and right but everyones too busy grabbing for that Brass ring to realize that the ring is hooked up to an electrical outlet wired for 480 Volts...

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I do want to get all technical about it... so i will completely skip over the point you are trying to make.
The definition of murder is the act of killing another human. look it up in any dictionary. Murder doesn't relate to other animals or plants, just humans.

 

If people stop eating meat, what do you think will become of the livestock? Do you think farmers will continue to feed and house them? Noooo, they will be liberated to compete with the other wild animals who already lack the space and natural resources to survive as it is.

Do some research into any wild game populations and see what has been shown to happen thruout a species when there is an overabundance of a given population in an area. I'll save you some time, they get malnurished and sickly and they starve, a slow and miserable death for any creature. But by all means, double check my statement.

Now take the existing wild species and envision what will happen to their already limited sources of forage if we add to the wildlife population by releasing all the livestock bred for flesh.

You're telling me you think it's kinder to let them fight amongst each other alongside the pre existing wildlife over scarce natural resources and die a slow and agonizing death in the field of starvation than to care for and feed them up untill the point where they are quickly slaughtered with a single merciful blow to the noggin area? I mean it seems like some people think they just start de-boning the animals while they're still alive or something,,,

But by all means, eat all the Veggies you want, you help keep the market prices on Porterhouse low.

 

That is the most accurate post on this topic. Most anthropologists agree that it was the eating of meat that led to what we are today. Originally mostly by scavenging and later more by hunting. It led to the development of large brains, our extended childhoods that allow the large brains to develop, and the development of tools and civilization. I don't care whether or not you eat meat. But do understand that being vegan is Not Natural for humans.

 

There will never bee a supplement for animal meat. I do not judge people by what they eat, nor does anyone have the right to. One thing is for sure is young children, ESPECIALLY INFANTS, must be fed the proper nutrients that you can only get from meat and it's sources until they are old enough to decide for themselves. It should be considered illegal and child abuse for feeding infants and toddlers nothing but organics and non-meats. Children need fat, protein, vitamins, and not the ones from pills, but real from real sources. Besides, have you ever noticed the vast majority of people only eat the expendable, ugly animals, such as cows and pigs for example?

"What are you?" ... "I am a squirrel!" ... "What do you do?" .. I gather nuts, act cute, and make cute mouse like noises" ... "You're free to go."

"What are you" .. "I am a cow" .. "What do you do?" .. I eat grass, roll around in my own poo, get fat, and can care less about anything and everything except eating and rolling in my own poo. If you look under my poo, you will find colorful mushrooms you can either use or make a profit off" ... "Get on the truck!"

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but nobody should be allowed to try to convert anyone. I am close friends with 3 vegans, and they are the three nicest people I've been around in a while. I will not judge them nor will I try to make them eat meat. They also do not judge me for going over to their house with a big mac hanging out of my mouth. They understand that, to me, broccoli is a side dish used, and with melted cheese around it, makes a great meat topper!

 

I like your post, but I'm wondering what your definition of natural is in your last sentence.

 

Does a bear shit in the woods kind of natural.