Why do Muslim women only go left?

Discussion in 'People' started by 6-eyed shaman, Nov 7, 2019.

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  1. Over here in Australia we see all of your news as well. So please watch what you say when trying to think that everything is just in one country.
    As i mentioned this forum is for everyone.
     
  2. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    You're only allowed to talk about politics in your own country only.

    The Americans made it so after too many non Americans started voicing concerns and opinions on the HF message boards.

    If you live in Australia, you've got good living conditions and health care, no mass shootings, no mass racism, your kids are all well educated and your life happiness and expectancy rating is sky high in comparison to others.

    What would an Australian know anyway? Lol.
     
  3. Varmint

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    You've made some astonishing presumptions:
    a) I don't mind being called "mate". It tells me where you're from.
    b) The KKK was, indeed started here in the USA, and by democrats, so I will continue to compare the two since they share so many common views and heritage. I thought you folks had another name for liberals and leftists, but here in the US they're democrats.
    c) I was unaware that I should only post about politics of my own country. That's an idiotic notion, at best. I'm not offended by the politics of other nations; just disappointed by them.
    d) If what Irminsul says about Aussies is correct, HOOORAAAAAYYY! That's great no matter where you're from, even if your politically-arthritic politicians took away your personal firearms in some ill-advised "buy-back" scheme.
    e) Our Constitution condemnes democracy and, therefore, the democratic party, simply by commanding our government to guaranteed to every state in this union a Republican form of government. Sadly, I've noticed that a lot of folks just don't have a clue what that is or looks like anymore....especially democrats and foreigners.

    I've stated historical facts here rather than opinions....except for that line (d) about your firearms. That is my opinion, and if we yankees didn't love our arms so much that we also taught our kids and grandkids how to use and respect them, we would likely all be speaking german. That's not a historical fact either; just a high statistical probability. Oh....one other thing: I tend to mostly ignore the news from across the Atlantic. There's enough evil in my own part of the world without being concerned about yours. I think a lot more evil is coming to both of us, though and, when it does, a lot more people are going to wish they had guns or good protection details. I also think a large part of said evil will be carrying machetes and acid.
     
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  4. Varmint

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    Not everyone, but most definitely blacks. Maybe jews, too, depending on which branch of them you run into. If you were here in the USA, one of your neighbors might be one and you may never know it, as not all of them are out in the open about it. I hope you don't have any over there. That would seriously diminish my desire to visit. You have a beautiful country, and I wouldn't mind touring through some of your wilderness areas. Even if I'd have to leave my gun at home.
     
  5. Firstly, you have no idea.
    Secondly, the kkk is not the democrats. You are just being a pain in the arse with this because you hate the democrats.
    Thirdly, try working alongside people from the sub continent. Think you will find they are actually fun to be around.
     
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  6. Varmint

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    You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts. The KKK was created by democrats to oppose the freeing of the slaves here. Check your historical records, if you have any. Things like this, and those who adamantly justify and make excuses for it are why I'm not a democrat anymore. Don't get me wrong....I'm not too pleased with some so-called republicans, either, but facts are facts.
    See here, for one: https://www.history.com/topics/reconstruction/ku-klux-klan

    Also, I tend to work with anyone without complaint. You can ask my former co-workers about that. So, yes....I'd love to work with some folks from down under. Haven't got a thing against any of you so far.
     
  7. Varmint

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    Suzanne, I've checked the records and it appears that I stand corrected.

    A more recent news article has exposed a much earlier journalist's falsehoods regarding the 1924 KKK Convention (there wasn't any) and the erroneous idea that the democrats created the KKK (they didn't, at least officially). While they were heavily supported by many democrats in the 1800's, It appears that, by their resurrection in the 1920's they had democrats AND republicans among their ranks. Disappointing, but not astonishing.

    Thank you for providing the impetus for me to double-check, otherwise I wouldn't have known about this.
     
  8. Balbus

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    Varmint

    Well in a history exam that would get you a grade D minus, at best, for analysis as you miss out on context and motive and a Fail for not seeming to understand the fundamental process of history that things change.

    For example yes many in the Democratic Party, of the time, voted against the abolition of slavery but that was in 1864 a hundred and fifty-six years ago and the vote against equal rights for women was in 1919 over a hundred years ago.

    You rant about the Democrats supposedly setting up the KKK (not factual) which was again 150 years ago and of Muslims supposedly supporting Hitler some 90 years ago (back up needed).

    Do you think things might have changed? Are the Democrats getting the support of white supremacists these days or is it the Republicans?

    So then you laughingly try and use this history to beat up on today’s Democrats and Muslims (all of them)

    The major problem is that you are been led by your own prejudices and bias (which burst out throughout your posts) rather than trying to look at the issues and history with even a slight amount of objectivity.

    Honestly the way you have tried to twist things to imply that everything bad in the world is the fault of kkk loving, Nazis supporting, violence promoting and women loathing lefties just makes you come across as some type of nutty joke and would have you thrown out of any reputable history class.
     
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  9. Balbus

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    Varmint

    LOL oh hell I’ve got to hear you back that up, go on please go on try and explain your ‘opinion’.
     
  10. Asmodean

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    The bigotry lies in the motivation of the 'joke'. Don't be faceteous, Jeffrey!
    Just because it is ment tongue in cheek doesn't mean its not primarily ment to trigger, provoke or annoy other people (that's how it gets more fun for the maker than just at face value). Just because it isn't ment serious doesn't mean its funny.

    I wrote this on the first page of this thread:

     
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  11. stormountainman

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    The KKK was started by the Confederates who lost the Civil War and wanted a secret organization to revive the Confederacy and re-institute slavery. The KKK membership moved entirely in 1972 to the Republican Party after Charles Colson and Jerry Falwell convinced Richard Nixon to adopt their conservative moral & silent majority ideas. They wanted a new political force which is made up of rich white Christian conservative business and real estate owners, which would be exclusive of Blacks and Mexicans. It was a revival of DC Stephenson's ideology.
     
  12. carpetbagger

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    Sorry the top part of my answer was a quite from the OP. Check the quotation marks.
    I'm crap at using the forum tools.

    My post was saying how the OP was an example of how the left is where comedy goes to die.
    The joke was funny.
     
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  13. Asmodean

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    I find it very unfortunate any left or right leaning people get equated with being a Democrat or Republican voter/supporter. I get why this is done in the US, but it shouldn't be this way. It's an oversimplification. It distorts how left and right leaning americans perceive their fellow countrymen with another political inclanation and the fact there are only two meaninful parties on the national level seriously limits your democracy and how well every citizen can be adequately represented or at least vote for a party that aims to do so. Now it just seems left is democrat and right is Republican. Which is frankly retarded. A left or right leaning person can be at odds with the one big party for many reasons, and often are. No wonder so many people don't vote.

    So just to be clear: a democrat is primarily a supporter, voter and/or politician of the democrat party. A left leaning person or liberal/leftist is primarily someone who is attracted to leftist/liberal ideas. They can vote democrat, third party (green for example) or not at all.
     
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  14. Asmodean

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    Some people like stale jokes. Humor remains subjective. We have plenty of experience with this threadstarter though, so lots of regulars are 1) kind of done with him making unoriginal jokes and remarks about groups he likes to mock, and 2) know why he makes them on this forum.
     
  15. Republicans can't seem to think abstractly, which is why their humor flops with me. No absurdity, silliness, or irony. Just acting like mischievous children saying some racial epithet, calling it a joke, and then acting like everyone else needs to lighten up when no one finds it funny. No one is fooled. Every joke has a bit of truth. No one thinks you Republicans are deconstructing racism and bigotry. You're basically just unfunny bigots without an original thought in your heads.
     
  16. Asmodean

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    I'm not sure OP is a Republican. If not, thanks for illustrating my point ;)

    He definitely is right leaning.
     
  17. Yea, it would have been funnier if it was fundamentalist Christians.
     
  18. Asmodean

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    Not really, the joke about women s rights on itself are just as old and stale. Wether its in some way at the expense of muslims, christians or the women themselves, if it is done too often by the same person or terribly unoriginal its not funny. Just to be clear: its not unfunny because its at the expense of a group, religion or whatever. That can be funny. But yeah, I pity the OP if he really insists this was made for humour at face value. He hoped to get libtard reactions and have fun with that.
     
  19. Varmint

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    If the op was making a joke, I still don't see it, but then I've always had a problem with humor, so no biggie to me. A lot of things others find funny seems to slip by me. As to my comments about the origins of the KKK: I went by the information I had at the time, and I posted my update after looking at other material. Granted, The source that exposed the original fake article doesn't have the greatest history when it comes to accuracy or non-bias, but it's there for anyone to look up and, if you wish to see it, you'll look it up as I did. It's only one source, and there may be others who copied and carried the story afterwards. These things happen when "news" hit the wire.

    If the expose' was true, and I'm not surprised if it is, I'm sure sorry it took so long for anyone to find out, and I wish it hadn't been buried like that, but it's out now, and that's a good thing. As I told Suzanne earlier, I stand corrected, and thank you to all who motivated me to re-check this.
     
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  20. Okiefreak

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    How on earth did Six's stale joke get revived as a talking point? 2020 is off to a bad start!
     
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