Why did God need to sacrifice Jesus to forgive sin?

I never haved insulted you and I will never do that. If you did not understand something I say you can always ask me to explain. I was going to explain until you said you were part Blackfoot. I have no not reason to doubt you when you said you were amerindien. An amerindien might not call it Wendigo but he would have similar.


But unfortunately you do have a Wendigo in you

That is one of the white man's lies made to look like the truth and the Internet belongs to white man not autochtones . Most of Internet is only white man's propoganda

The Inuit have had written language for thousands of years. But it is not a language white man could recognize. So he as many others tried to "civilise" us and make us speak his language. When he could not do that he tried to adapt one another for us.

When a woman of any race say it is a man's world. She is not prejudice to men. She is only saying a fact that most women can see. When you are amerindien surrounded by white man. It is only stating fact that you are forced to live in a white man's world.

To this I can only say is amerindiens and Inuit share but white man takes.

The bible is a book for stories about people in the middle east. The stores of the people that the white man took it from do not believe in the bible, they believe in Islam. It is only the white man's because it was taken by force. Of plus the only people that really use it are white men.


But you still have not responded to my question
*** How do you know your faith is the only truth ? ***
Please give me one little proof that is not from a white man's source and I will start to read the bible again and even study it to learn more.

 

i have spoken with bears , and they laugh laugh laugh .
once , though , the blackfoot gave me a bear to eat and also
i was given ten children to share with .

 

I am with great boredoom at this time because I am living in a church. I have crossed the ocean and I am going to visit India. The religieuses are nice women and the priest is a gentilhomme. I help clean and I make meals for some of the other people that have needs but after that I have nothing to do and no where to go.

I sit alone in a room with lots of books and a computer. I have played much games of chess and I have readed 4 books. I am with great boredom.

 

I am sorry to hear that you are bored. I get bored sometimes too. What kind of church are staying at?

I am curious, where do you think, "white mans world" begins and ends?

 

May I suggest you put your trust in God and not your own interpretations.

The quality missing is the right spirit.

The wages for sin is death. Romans 6:23

None, Jesus is the only necessary sacrifice.

I'm sorry to hear that you believe that love is an illness

If you didn't downplay loving kindness than you would accept the sacrifice. You confuse joyful feelings with love when love isn't always easy.

The end result of love can easily result in sacrifice. A loving mother may make the decision to sacrifice herself for the love of her child.

I don't believe that you say you believe in God based on discussions I've read on here. When I read what you write it gives me the impression that not only can God not write a book but that "God" is nothing more than a kind of result of "reality examined" through that use of your logic.

Love isn't always about puppy dogs and rainbow stew sometimes tough love is required.

Evidence of what? I only go by the evidence God provides and no one should get it from me but from God.

I didn't deny you anything.

Love to you is whatever you want it to be and not what it is.

Only that if I don't agree with you then I'm not demonstrating Godly affection. What matters is agreeing with God.

Teaching another gospel has the power to cause others to stumble.

Whatever God you believe it isn't the God of the Bible and therefore no God at all.

Would be better to concern yourself with "where is the light".

 

English is not my mother language so I do not understand what you are asking when you say *kind* of church. They are nice people. Where does the white man's world begin and end. That is a question I have not thought of. Perhaps that is why I am going to India or perhaps further again. I was going to go to south america but then a woman conduired me to Labrador city and then I decided it would be much more easy to traverse now the atlantic instead of traversing the united states.

 

Jesus gets upset when he realizes that there's no reason for his sacrifice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ksa5FNQLrA"]Mr. Deity and the Quitter - YouTube

 

May I suggest there is only one world and in it are people with different ideas and practices. That is, no white mans world.

There is a prevailing belief system.

That belief system is the proprietary model. Proprietary has to do with ownership. The proprietary model claims that you can 'own' pieces of the world, pieces of reality. So when you say white mans world, you are referring to this type of materialism.

Where can you escape this? Nothing is hidden that will not be revealed, you cannot hide from it. The challenge is not to be persuaded by the material comfort of it. Are you prepared yourself, to live lightly on the world and claim no part of it, solely your own?

There is another part to this and that is your claim on the identity of a people. A long as you conceive a foreign humanity, i.e. white man, you will carry with you a potential for clash of custom, disharmony. Are you prepared to forgo the propriety model as it relates to cultural identity?

 

Well a church can be a building where people gather to worship or it can be a particular faith as in christian church or hindu church. If you are in a christian church whose members are called nuns and priests, you are likely to be in a catholic church, which is a christian denomination , or sectarian division.

 

You may suggest such a thing but that is already my practice. I listen to the voice of the holy spirit. I can detect two voices in our conversation with each other. One says, you are guilty, the other says, you remain as god created you. Which one do you speak? Which one do you think is an appeal from the holy spirit?

Does god interpret for you, or do you believe the bible interprets itself and therefore is de facto the living voice of god?

I have asked god as described in the bible in the name of christ for the blessing of the teaching of the holy spirit, as in it, "will teach you all things".

On what evidence do you determine where I put my trust?

So if you kill things with the right spirit, it is loving or necessary?

And he is come as ransom for many. Ransom is payment or wages. The work of christ pays everlasting life as wages. Go and sin no more.

Yet you say love may require more sacrifice. Love does not seek it's own friend.

You are terribly confused, not to accuse, but I said that suffering is the illness. Do you think love is suffering?

Passion, is by definition suffering. Horny is passionate.

Again, to sacrifice is to give something up that you would prefer to keep for the sake of gaining something of greater value. Love does not seek it's own, it has no use for evaluation. All of it's expressions are maximal. God is love. There is no want in god, righteousness satisfies.

You confuse ideology with experience. My yoke is easy and my burden light.

A mother may behave passionately, to preserve her progeny. There is no end result of love. Love is everlasting, God is love.

You confuse syrupy emotion and intense passion, *suffering, with love.

How did you come to determine that god wrote the bible?

Dude, what you say here is nothing more than an excuse for violence. God is love falling on everyone alike.

What do you mean by this quote then?

" I don't believe that you say you believe in God based on discussions I've read on here. It gives me the impression that not only can God not write a book but that "God" is nothing more than a kind of result of "reality examined" through that use of your logic."

You said we can't be best of friends based on your belief. You could easily believe something else and you have in your life. If you do not wish to deny me the best of your friendship, then choose again.

Excuse me?

Not agreeing with me is not the same as claiming that I am without god.

Thank you for your faith. Your teaching has only the power of vacuous internet argument.

Bible is a book, doesn't need a god.

Are you crazy. Light dispels darkness.

 

It was the word *kind* that I did not understand. I am in a catholic

 

goats are happy that an ultimate blood sacrifice is made . for god so loved the world ...

lately , i've been drawing pictures of goats . one goat in particular is
named jesus , jesus of the goats . his eyes are the stars , he is blacklegged and bearded and horned . upon his forehead are some curious markings - three snakes and a crescent , which he has had from birth .

in the beginning was a goat lady . she appears as a fine earthy mama who cares for the herd and does the milking , makes the cheese . she love the baby jesus and with a gentle wisdom of touch teaches him the art of healing .

after while , jesus meets the council of ravens . he listens and learns of the far places . then also the ravens , who know the language of humans , speak to him so of oo and ahh and kee and such sense like that .

now this jesus does have children . we see that they play an jump upon the old piano that's been left to its eternity in the meadow . goat lady's daughter play too .

why did god .... ? for god so loves the world

 

All this blablabla about sacrifices. Why does *god* require a sacrifice ? I am re-reading the christian bible and for a *god* that loves the world. He certainly appears to like suffering and killing. I have seen alcoholiques beat their love less than this *god*.

After something has been sacrificed to this being. Do the people honneur the killed animal by eating and using as much of its body for as possible for there to not be waste ? You should not dis-honneur any animal by killing it and not using it.

 

drinking the blood of jesus
drinking it right from his veins


learning to swim in the ocean
learning to prowl in his name


the body of christ looked unto me
a preacher with god-given hands


he wants you to suck on the holy ghost
and swallow the sins of man


the invisible piss of the holy ghost
comes down like acid rain


they're making a bonnet of terminal guilt
the scavengers go on parade


the fathers who write that eternity
is used to fight the sword


have filled you up with the devil's cock
and he'll come in the name of the lord


Ministry - Psalm 69

 

why does an alchoholic beat his love ?

when i meet an alchoholic who is now sober , and he says
that jesus saved him from that wretchedness ... well , i think
that's all fine and good but not very interesting . if music had
saved him we might have a good time jammin' .

 

I think that my heart's been fucked by Christ.

 

That is a curious analogy. Could you explain it's meaning?

 

I often change words in music. It's a sickness really. You have to listen to the song.

 

Sorry, what song?

Changing lyrics can be very entertaining. Why do you think it a sickness?

 

Psalm 69.

I was not being serious

There's a saying, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions".

So is the path to heaven paved with bad intentions?

Does the false morality of original sin, Jesus and forgiveness act as an "Idiots Guide" to heaven? Or maybe it's all a trick, a trap door straight to hell.

If I was inclined to believe, I'd say it seems as though all roads are leading to hell.

Or maybe I'm still not being serious.