Why are Hindus such weak people?

Mao Tse Tung was a genius.

Also, the Brits got many basic things from other countries - cotton clothes and personal hygene from India, the idea of paper money from China etc.

However, I'd have to agree that overall the Brits were, until recent times, an inventive lot. These days we seem to be in terminal decline.

Maybe the roast beef has something to do with it......

 

I was just commenting on the past 200 years really Bill. The problem is we never take advanatage of the things we create. It was a Brit who invented the World Wide Web, but of course he now lives in the US and pretty much all his work contributes to their economy. This has happened again and again in the past 50 years. In looks like we are in decline, not in ideas or genius imo, but in the willingness to take advantage of it.

 

Ha - my dad used to say 'the British invent it, the Americans develop it, and Japanese mass produce it for half the price'.....I think he was onto something there.

 

Hey, all that stuff happened here in the Colonies!

 

Asia indeed did contribute a lot to science and technology.



Indian mathematics were the foundation of western science and technology.



As Albert Einstein himself said ,"We have to be grateful to the Indians for teaching us how to count without which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made. "

If it were not for the advent of Indian mathematics in Europe , Europe would still would have been living in the Dark Ages.

Similarly, Francis Bacon himself in his essays, had creditted China with teaching europe about gunpowder, the compass and paper, all of which revolutionised europe for the better.

 

wiki states,

India is widely recognised for its four great inventions in mathematics which have greatly shaped the modern world and without which mathematics wouldn't have come very far as the American historian Will Durant said "India was the mother of our philosophy... of much of our mathematics."

The four great inventions are:
Invention of Zero
Invention of the Hindu-Arabic numeral system
Invention of the Binary numeral system
Invention of the Decimal system

Mathematical Discoveries/Inventions and Conceptual Inventions

First known precise celestial calculations by Aryabhata
Earliest known work on Linguistics by Panini
The first detailed works on Algebra by Aryabhata, Brahmagupta and Bhāskara
The first known mention of the Fibonacci sequence by Pingala
The earliest attempt to exaplin gravity
Trigonometry
Determining that the Sun is a star
Determining the number of planets in the Solar System
First mention of the concept of Heliocentrism by Yajnavalkya in Shatapatha Brahmana
The concept of the Atom
Democracy as the Greeks
Discovering that the a year has 365 1/4 days
Discovered that the earth is round
The earth revolves around the sun
First to calculate the diameter of the earth
First to calculate the diameter of the moon

 

of china it states,


China is a country where many inventions made its first appearance. The inventions which made their first appearance in China are listed below (for further information, refer to Table 56 of pages 176-180 in Needham's Volume 4 Part 2, Science and Civilization in China).

Paper money
Battens in sails
Belt drive
Blast furnace
The cannon
Cast iron
Chain drive
Chinese cuisine: Tofu, Noodles, Ramen
Chinese clothing: Qipao, Hanfu
Chopsticks
Bituminous coke for the iron and steel industry
Compass
Crossbow, Repeating crossbow
Escapement mechanism for clocks
Exploding cannonball
Fire Arrow
Gunpowder
Firearm
Horse collar
Hull compartments/bulkheads
Kite
Land mines
Matches
Naval mines
Paper
Pendulum (Zhang Heng)
Pound lock
Printing (woodblock printing and movable type)
Rockets: Fire Arrow, Multistage rocket
Rotary fan
Rudder
Sailing carriage
Seismometer (of Zhang Heng)
Silk
South Pointing Chariot (differential gear, of Ma Jun)
Sluice gates
Toilet paper
Traditional Chinese medicine
Trebuchet (traction)
Trip hammer
Winnowing machine

 

Bah, it does not matter who invented what, and where. What matters is what you do with yourself in this life. Are you going to just sit there talking about the past inventions, feeding the Indian ego or the british ego? or are you going to look within yourself? See what needs changing in order to live without fear, without procrastination, full of compassion and in full bliss.
What is britain? if it is not a concept? I was in london last week, funny, it didn't look much different from USA. The same with India now, the ground looks the same as it did in USA.
This may come as a surprise to you all, but I will tell you one simple thing which may seem completely crazy to most of you sane people .
What we think we know about this world is pure imagination created within our minds. The real nature, the real world is independent of it. People go crazy when they see a diamond, but they throw away the coal. Ha! fools don't even know that the difference between diamond and coal is an illusion, both are carbon.

 

I don't think we are feeding anyones ego. We are only discussing the vital contributions made by various civilizations to the overall spiritual and material progress of the world. I think it is a good thing, as it creates an atmosphere of universality.

 

Hello everyone. Just thought I'd join in.

We cannot forget that every nation has its great strengths and great challenges - it doesn't matter where you live, human nature is the same everywhere.

Does India not stand up for herself? I don't know - it depends on your measure. Shivaji resisted the Moghels with the sword and was victorious. Gandhiji resisted the British with the heart. He alone among so many millions resisted his opponent with all his heart without forgetting that those he was fighting against were also God - part of the same divine ocean. Out of devotion to God he preferred to accept violence onto himself instead of inflicting it on others, while actively resisting the occupation. That is the greatest strength. So rare is that strength that few people or nations have the courage to practice it even now.

All I know is that India is still standing after 5,000 years. Does she have great problems - of course - I have seen them with my own eyes and breaks my heart. But my own America has enormous problems too despite great strengths - I have also seen these with my own eyes. Every nation has its problems because each one of us has problems, great selfishness, huge egos, base desires, narrow identifications. The ingredients for a perfect stew of trouble. As long as we continue to eat from that stew we'll continue to have gas!

India is such a diverse nation - I've never seen greater diversity anywhere and that naturally generates difficulties - but that diversity is also part of her great charm and appeal to me. Does the caste system and poverty persist? Of course, but strides are being made. Poverty and racism also exist in America and similar flavors of ignorance in other counties. It is human nature to create divisions but Hinduism reminds us all that these differences are superficial, in fact, illusory.

Despite huge and real challenges India has so many people of enormous and genuine spirituality. I personally have never been so profoundly welcomed, nor felt such warmth and friendliness and community as during my visits there. While there is sometimes spiritual intolerance, nowhere have I also seen more people of real spiritual tolerance and vision, nor found such towering spiritual personalities.

Could she do better? Of course! Which nation can't do more? But isn't the first battle within ourselves - rather than between ourselves?

 

The Hindus in India are responding in a non-violent manner following the laws of Ahimsa. But other countries cant so they just trample them. Its as though all the indian hindus are gandhi impersonaters.

 

It takes far more strength to turn away and take the riddicule, hatred, and evil of another people than it does to fight back. Hindus are strong people, it is those who must wage war to feel superior and to gain superiority who are weak.

 

As a christian Pope addict, I have the simpler sweet answer. At this point in time THEY are waiting for the MILK of re-incarnated possibilities on THIS planet Earth.

What constitutes the difference between the environmental value at science and the organized each one's life for grace.


The environment passes for the solutions from Hollywood and the meaning of the Lives of ignoramous indifference at large; the organization of the state of tolerance and giftedness for families that can get recognized passes for solutions at Bollywood.

 

Hare Krishna!

This silly thread has surfaced to come back again ! Ladylocks and we all were not killed everyday despite so many wrong doings on daily basis. Forgiveness, kindness, tolerance and compassion of God always came first to save us and gave us yet another chance. Is God also weak ? Ladylocks and like-minded persons would do well to study history and Indian Philosophy. 'Athiti (Guest) Deva Bhabo', meaning Guest is like God and is to be treated like God. This holds good even today barring a few unfortunate and deplorable incidents which are curse of modern times. Tolerance and forgiveness are the two main pillars Indian way of looking at things even in the cases of aggression. Indians always endeavoured best to co-exist with different faiths and nationalities giving full respect and honour to them. This was always mistaken for weakness and undue advantages were taken. Indians always acted very late when all other means of maintaining dignified existence failed. Indians consider the whole world to be their own, they see Krishna not only inside the temples but everywhere else. All are their own. Sense of fraternity is automatic with the Indians. That is probably why we cannot fight against our own selves. That is why Indians could never become an aggressor-country. They did not need to. When such a brother stabs us even then we stare at him with total disbelief in our eyes.

Tolerance and forgiveness have their own beauty and power of doing miracles.
Lord Jesus was definitely not weak when He forgave all concerned with the cruel act of crucifixion, that was His Greatness over all others. That is why He is the Lord and we are all His servants.

Such debates will never end unless it is peacefully ruminated over with a calm and candid mind.

Love,

Kumar.

 

This certainly is a silly thread!
I think it's the sort of thing that comes because people believe in this or that religion and identify with it, thinking all the others are wrong or inferior. But really, there is only one path - the path that leads us to know God.
We know for instance that Sri Ramakrishna followed both Christian and Muslim practices and said they lead to the very same goal as Hinduism.

Really people have been brainwashed with a cultish and divisive conception of 'religion' and need to learn to expand their horizons, think 'out of the box'.

 

With everyone's blessings I would like to lock this thread for good - I feel nothing constructive is going to result from it.