Why are Hindus such weak people?

Discussion in 'Hinduism' started by Ladylocks, May 12, 2005.

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  1. niranjan

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    India is the land of the most ancient warrior code on earth , and the most ancient martial arts.

    The greeks under alexander, the huns, the scythians, the arabs, the uzbeks, the turks, the iranians, the pathans, the tartars, the portuguese, the french, the dutch, the british, the chinese , the pakistanis to the present day have tested our blade , and we thrashed them all manfully.We have had fights with many nations of the earth, and we have defeated all of them. we had suffered repulses, but we bounced back to win the good fight.Probably no nation on earth is as battle-scarred as India is.

    We are still standing after all these milleniums, while the egyptian, the babylonian, the zoroastrian and other ancient civilizations have collapsed.


    One of the greatest teaching of the bhagavad gita by Krishna is this,"Yield not to unmanliness, it does not befit thee. "
     
  2. niranjan

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    Both Subhash Chandra Bose and Mahatma Gandhi were highly influenced by Swami Vivekananda.And both their contributions are crucial.

    Gandhi represented the civilian, and helped to mobilise the civilians to fight peacefully and non-violently against the british, and not to cooperate with the administration, thus paralysing it, and boycotting the foreign british goods, which hurt the british economically very badly.

    Bose represented the soldier, and helped to mobilise the soldiers to form the INDIAN NATIONAL ARMY, whose goal was to stir a rebellion identical to the 1857 mutiny in the british royal army , composed of Indian soldiers , and to fight the british.


    Reflecting on the factors that guided the British decision to relinquish the Raj in India, Clement Attlee, the then British prime minister, cited several reasons, the most important of which were the INA activities of Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose, which weakened the Indian Army - the foundation of the British Empire in India- and the RIN Mutiny that made the British realise that the Indian armed forces could no longer be trusted to prop up the Raj.
     
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    India at the moment has the third largest armed forces in the world, with a battle tested army, formidable air force( which comprehensively defeated the U.S . air force in friendly tests in the U.S. ), a superb blue water navy with nuclear submarines and aircraft carriers and the most lethal anti-ship missile in the world brahmos.

    India also possess nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles, that makes her the fourth most powerful nation in the world, after the U.S., RUSSIA AND CHINA.


    India is also the second fastest growing economy in the world, after china.




    India also recently became a land of one lakh millionaires.(dollar terms )

    After Singapore, its fastest growing club in the world.


    Riding high on strong economic growth and robust gains in stock markets ,
    the number of millionaires in India has crossed one lakh mark. This makes
    India the world's second fastest growing nation after Singapore.

    India has also recently became a trillion dollar economy, one of the few nations in the world to do so.

    The steel king, laxmi das mittal , is the third richest man in the world, with assets of more than 40 billion dollars.

    The founder of wipro, azim premji, the multi-billionaire, is the 10th richest man in the world.

    India has recently pipped Japan as being the country with the most number of billionaires (dollar terms ) in asia.


    And economists say that all this is only going to improve.
     
  4. stoney69

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    isn't it sad ..this great divide among humans ?

    and the left-over's of this great civilisation still havin "untouchables" within!
     
  5. niranjan

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    The so-called caste system is a feudal institution like those in japan and europe and russia.

    And what do you mean by the left overs. Hindu civilization is complete and is as it is , milleniums back.

    And untouchability, which has no sanction in the vedas, is banned in the indian constitution, made by an untouchable himself, (just like the ramayana and the mahabharatha were created by hindu so-called untouchables) and anyone who practices it can be arrested and prosecuted.

    And I know this because , I am a so-called untouchable myself.
     
  6. Jedi

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    Everyone is the same in front of God. When we think something makes us superior or someone else superior, then we are just simply ignorant.
     
  7. stoney69

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    thank you!
     
  8. Ladylocks

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    Oh really, is that why you were beaten and humiliated by a handful of muslim bandits and later a british company for the last 1,000 years? And the fact that you were given independence was cuz among a billion indians, there was only one with spine and who the british actually feared i.e bose.

    Go help your hindu people in kashmir who are being persecuted, that is if you have any spine instead of being a coward and Bs all the time.

    Economy? Ha, Chinese people get things done and work collectively. While you're still a 3rd world country.

    And your army? Don't forget you were beaten and humiliated by China and you're too spineless to free Tibet. Your army cannot last 2 weeks without foreign arms and supplies.

    Let's not forget that if this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4ryvs1YuQo happened to niranjans mother, sister or gf/wife- he would just sit there and watch the fun like a typical hindu or even quote how great hinduism is

    Pathetic
     
  9. Jedi

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    We don't have to fight, just chant the lord's names and he will protect us.
     
  10. Bhaskar

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    Enjoy your anger. I hope it makes you very happy.
     
  11. Ladylocks

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    Pathetic
     
  12. philuk

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    Nothing so good as a well reasoned reply :jester:
     
  13. Piney

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    The Uganda thing was illustrated in the movie: The last King of Scotland.
    fascinating.

    One can hardly blame the innocents being rousted by thugs with firearms in Uganda it was ugly class warfare against a group of shopkeepers.

    Would prefer to focus on the criminals who are doing the abusing rather than blaming those on the reciving end of the attack.

    Equating Christian recruitment with bombings and attacks is not the way to go here.

    The good people need to stand together in this world.
     
  14. niranjan

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    I think you are saying these stuff with a desire to showcase Bose's achievements, which were indeed not given their proper acknowledgement due to the efforts of politicians and historians biased to Gandhi. Hence I appreciate what you are saying. We are now trying to rectify this great error and mischief.


    As for the rest, there are a lot of contradictions. First of all , India has existed for many milleniums, and it was only in the last millenium that she had to suffer defeats and repulses in war to better equipped forces with better strategy and tactics. Some foolish Brahmins, who prevented Indians from travelling to other nations and learning from them , on the assumption that they are barbarians are mainly to blame for this. India had shared her wealth of knowledge and ideas with the world, however she was prevented by imbeciles from profitting herself from other cultures and nations. This marked her downfall.
    As Vivekananda himself said" No person or nation can progress without being in contact with other persons or nations. And any person or nation that does so, will only be leading to its downfall. "

    And even then , her history of the last thousand years was still marked by incessant wars against the islamic rulers and the british rulers till they were all thrashed.

    "Manliness without saintliness is the devils dance. Saintliness without manliness is hypocrisy and humbug." ---- Swami Vivekananda


    And this is the reason why many devout but hypocritical hindus , while waxing eloquently on peace and love, does not care a hoot for their suffering brethren in Kashmir.


    India is the second fastest growing economy in the world after China. Granted, China is ahead, but an iron dictatorship and lack of freedom is the rule in China, while democracy and freedom is the rule in India. China seem like the hare , which is fast but unstable, while India is more like the tortoise, slow but steady.


    The Indian army was indeed defeated by the Chinese due to the incompetent and illogical policies of the pacafist Nehru, and this incident greatly destroyed his and his governments prestige. Nehrus idiocy was that he trusted the chinese so much that he never thought that they will fight against India, and hence he suffered on account of his stupidity.

    However to Indias credit, she has defeated comprehensively pakistan in all the four wars she had fought against.
    She had, after the chinese betrayal, has given a lot of importance to the building up of military power, and the efforts are showing as I stated in a previous post in this thread.

    And indeed, INdia makes much of her weapons, resources and supplies.

    No country supplied us the info for making nuclear weapons or ballistic missiles.
     
  15. stoney69

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    allez! with one-sixth of the population sittin there, you need to rely on another country ?
     
  16. niranjan

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    Hi stoney69, I guess u don't understand english well. I did say that we built our nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles on our own, and have also self-sufficiency in many sectors.
     
  17. stoney69

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    don't seem you understand it too well! my point being, with the number of folks on that land ..why would you even think of dependency on another country
     
  18. niranjan

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    And again I stated that we are indeed selfsufficient in many sectors. Hence where is the need for dependency.
     
  19. celina

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    you cant say hindus believe this or that. we all have varying beliefs because we have varying philosophies, hinduism is very diverse. My philosophy doesn't believe in destiny, we make out own destiny. Krishna was a warrior, read the bhagvat gita. He told arjun to fight because it was a time of war and he needed too.

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  20. philuk

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    The number of people doesnt matter, most advances come from the genius of one or two people. For example the UK is a small country with a tiny population number compared to other countries. But in the past 300 years has been the motherland of more inventions than any other country at a guess, spliting the atom, railways, the computer, television, microwave and telephone being a few. The likes of China has come up with hardly any inventions in the past 500 years and has just copied the west in recent years. Therefore niranjan is completely correct we should all look to other countries for help if they have produced people of genius.
     
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