Why a sanctuary?

Civility is not very civil if it is political.

 

That's deep.

 

Civility has nothing to do with the topic and everything to do with the character of the speaker.

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Political correctness is dishonest. Give me your greasy fit and I will hose it down. This is civil.

 

Not really, it's a concept that most people learn as children. It's also a concept of the Christianity that you seem to find so contemptible.

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All civility is precisely equal to your relationship with the person standing next to you. In that precise moment we find civility or not. How much are you willing to find? I heard you ask if we did not appreciate an insult, you invite him to insult and then complain that he is insulting.

 

Thank you for this. I was starting to think I was losing my mind. :willy_nilly:

 

Exactly. Not being a Christian would give no insight into the question, so you would have no reason to be there. Unless you were there to try and debunk us. Do you not do this? Have I confused you with someone else? Regardless of whether or not you would, others would, and the Sanctuary prevents this.

It's no secret that you're not a fan of religion. The fact that you oppose giving Christians a place to be their Christian selves (which is sometimes admittedly disruptive to non-Christians as darrell pointed out) simply stating it "blocks discussion", even though you say you wouldn't be a part of such discussion anyway is what is confusing to me. If not to debunk our faith, then why? If you could give me another reason that I have not yet considered, I would be open to hearing it.

...Is this a joke? Seriously, dude, I can't tell anymore. Maybe comments like this are the reason I feel like you're kind of out to get us and I'm just missing the joke...

Don't apologize... Guess your humor is just lost on me.

An addiction then? A crutch?

Oh, I have one. I think it's just incompatible with yours. Or maybe it just doesn't translate well over flat text. Or maybe I made the mistake of taking this discussion too seriously. Either way, I'll try to be more vigilant.

Depends on where from... You could always tie it in a knot, you know. Technically twistie tying isn't a seal. You could have the bag sealed. That would also eliminate the need for a twistie tie... Should we drop this now?

...okay

:coffee:

But... but... I had a brilliant croissant metaphor all worked out!

OoOoOoOoOoOo... burn.

 

I did not. What I said exactly was:

Which would mean: does he realize that he is insulting others, or does he not care that others see him as rude and obnoxious?

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Like Toast.

 

Yeah, like I said. Either he's insulting and doesn't realize it, or he realizes it and doesn't care, but regardless he is still insulting to others, which you find insulting.
I just have never felt insulted by rudenoodle

 

Wrong again. I'm not insulted, but I have compassion for those who are; and, as an atheist, I don't appreciate those who make us look bad. Personally, I'm too old to feel insulted by anyone, but I do know right from wrong. It's just plain wrong to brow-beat and insult people who have done nothing to you.

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I think it's hilarious that you came in here for the sole purpose of making that addition. :rofl:

 

Lack of appreciation = depreciation, translation, I am offended. You pretend to keep a straight face while sucking on lemons.

So this is the politically correct argument which makes us become the enforcers of civility which is a violation of civil freedom. Life mirrors attention.

 

May I infer that you believe insulting others is a virtuous endeavor worthy of your support?

I'm not trying to enforce anything, I'm just expressing my opinion, like you're doing.

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Why would one persons actions reflect on an entire ideology such as atheism?, make "us" look bad,

That's a bold statement.

 

I think to be void of offense is a virtuous endeavor. Condition takes two to exist. There is the offender and the offended and either one may call upon offense any time they choose. Offense invites defense. If I do not defend myself I am invulnerable to attack. What turns out to be offensive is the job description of the offended. The offender surely feels he is correct.

Of course you may speak for yourself.

 

That's a philosophy that most don't learn until later in life, if then. What should be learned along with that attitude is to not be judgmental of those who have not learned the responsibilities of self.

Responsibility for protection of the young lies with the mature, even if that youth lies within the mind. One who has evolved to understand the complexities of relationships should not use that understanding for the purpose of manipulation, nor should he shy away from the duties it demands.

Of course, that's just my opinion.

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I see you take this rather serious. Well, I am not trying to change any beliefs or promote harmony or endear others to some position you may think I hold. My position is a lack of one; it morphes; it contradicts itself; it laughs at itself; it is never insulted. I simply do not know. So a lot of times I say things on this site because they are just thoughts floating in my head, not because I am trying to convert people.

You will never hear me say someone is absolutely wrong. Probably wrong? Damn right. Absolutely? Never. I don't see the point in doing that to someone, and it would be hypocritical. I am not an idealist like you, I don't expect harmony so I don't particularly look to promote "harmony". How many terrible things have been done with a goal of peace and harmony? I feel keeping people on their toes is more fun as well as more useful.

 

I agree with your addition. However we are equal to learning any virtue at any age if we are given an example. Mine started with Jesus loves the little children, red, brown, or yellow, black or white, at age 8.

One who uses the complexities of relationships for manipulation does not comprehend the complexities of his relationship in my opinion.