Who sinned first? Man, Satan or God?

I have an eighth grade education. The eye is the lamp of the body, if the eye be sound the whole body will be full of light.
Again did you say something? Be specific with examples to back up your accusations.

 

I asked for that first and will wait.

Regards
DL

 

I don't about "judged" but it is pretty easy to see that what your spirit buddy keeps giving you to say, contradicts what the Holy Spirit has caused to be written in the Bible. Since the Holy Spirit is not contradictory, it would seem your spirit buddy is not who you think he is.

Again, you keep saying these supposedly "enlightened" things that are essentially meaningless and expect people to be awed by your "brilliance".

 

of original sin , i say it does not relate to the natural mind . i do not recognize it at all .
this is my last post , so i am out the door and gone to the woo , that great and deep
voice of spirit .

 

Okay, if only to keep you from whining about it.

Let's look at some of your "brilliance";

Adam and Eve were "created" by God, you being a descendant of Adam and Eve are not a direct creation of God and thus are not as God "created" you.

Like I said speak for yourself and stop trying to put words in the mouths of others.

Again, you show you have little or no understanding of what is being said to you. The thought being conveyed to you is stop speaking for others and just speak for yourself but instead of understanding, you try to pull it apart and make ignorant statements like this.

It was not a request for understanding, it was a request that you stop making meaningless statements and expecting others to answer them.

No.

Yes.

As usual you have no idea what is being spoken of in the scriptures you quote. In other places Jesus reminded his disciples that sometimes you need to be careful who you "lend your wisdom to" but as usual your spirit buddy seems to help you skip over things that don't go along with the points you are trying to make.

I have often tried to help you with that "reading comprehension" problem you have but in the end it is your problem not mine.

Why? So every time you find yourself without answers to what I've said, you can just dump the thread and ask the same old questions, over and over again in thread after thread? That doesn't seem to be a very efficient way to carry on a conversation.

Your response here, refers to this statement; "This is just bull, whereas I may rephrase things, perhaps from a different viewpoint, I have not changed what I believe and have continued to rephrase the same things I have always believed in." Which has nothing to do with "behavior" but whether I change my beliefs or not. Which is pretty typical of your conversational style, you are always changing a word here or there in a attempt to corrupt the conversation.

Just pointing out where your spirit buddy is leading you astray, no thanks needed.

I don't "become frustrated" but unlike you I have a life and only come here occasionally, mostly for entertainment value and if someone is interested, give them something to think about.

It seems your spirit buddy keeps telling you that but why do you think your spirit buddy keeps wanting you to side with Satan in this matter?

 

No it is you that distorts the scenario, they drank and died. Once again you are mislead by your lack of thinking. Ask yourself, if God had let them eat of the tree of life and live forever, what kind of life would Adam and Eve have today?

They just died. You tend to throw the word murder around rather carelessly.

As I try to always ignore your lack of thinking.

 

The measure you give is the measure you receive. What you see is what you insists is there or not. What is written in the bible is still written in the bible, I have not been contradictory to what is written or in in what I say.

You are dodging the question. Can you answer the question? Having judged against the holy spirit instructing me how will you redeem yourself. Every sin and blaspheme will be forgiven men, but the blaspheme against the spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever says a word against the son of man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the holy spirit will not be forgiven in this age or in the age to come.

 

As I pointed out to the dope recently, call it what you will but your skipping from thread to thread and you conveniently forgetting that I have already answered your same tried questions several times times already, seems a little too convenient.

 

Yeah, right.

See that is the whole point, your spirit buddy, as I have repeatedly pointed out, is not the Holy Spirit. So, no need to "redeem" myself.

You on the other, might want to take a closer look at your spirit buddy.

 

Not my brilliance at all.
God breaths life into living creature. A parent does not breath life into a child. Certainly if they could there would be no despair of dying children.

Like I said, I lend you my understanding of what he said because your responses bring into question yours. I don't put words in his mouth nor do I prevent him from speaking.

You're right. No one was speaking for me until you just now.

Strange way to say shut up, why so rude?
For purposes of clarity, I will respond to more in a moment.

 

You miss the point altogether which is why you have no way to redeem yourself. If you reject the presence of the holy spirit where is it to be found?

 

tikoo

That is pure Gnostic Christian thinking I think.
Sofia believes in you as long as you do not believe in her and just want to use her.

Regards
DL

 

Do you know what answer I am talking about?

Are you saying I should be suspicious of you. Who are these swine?

I would be willing to accept that except for the fact that you seem to think your belief abrogates the need to learn anything.

No, so you will stop defending yourself with that tired excuse and move on to discovering the truth about us.

Behavior stems from belief. An inconstant belief serves two masters as you are devoted to one and despise the other.
Just pointing out where your spirit buddy is leading you astray, no thanks needed.

You come in this conversation to rob both me and Greatestlam of spirit, and now to rob me even of my life.

So you think satan tells the truth? I thought you said satan sinned first and that his sin was in lying. Original sin is a lie.

 

Yes and I have subsequently answered that very question I guess you missed it.

Yes, you should, that is if you wish to follow the counsel of the Bible writers.

Jesus and his disciples.

You seem to be having trouble with that "reading comprehension" problem of yours again.

Well, this would be somewhat easier to believe if it wasn't for the that what I described you doing seems to be exactly what you do.

So why don't you find the real Holy Spirit, get away from your spirit buddy, that is keeping you limping on several different beliefs?

You really do need to get a life.

No I don't.

Yes Satan sinned first and he was the first to tell a lie.

That what you keep saying but it's not.

 

Whether you answered or not was not the question. You have in fact returned to the conversation. I asked the question to probe where your thinking may be at. You see you really are not understanding what is being said although you think you do and I hope that may become clearer to you in the examples here;

The passage you are referring to that you think the holy spirit missed is do not cast your pearls before swine lest they trample them under their feet. You are then suggesting that you are the swine in saying I should be suspicious of you.

You think jesus and his disciples are swine?

As far as reading comprehension,
are you ready to learn something yet, see above

I apologize for any inconvenience and I invite us to move on feeling unencumbered by the past.

As I told you already, I don't limp I walk on these waters. What I was commenting on was your behavior sponsored by your self negating inconstant understanding that causes you to be gracious with some and rude to others depending on whether you feel they are worthy or not. I claim the holy spirit as my promised gift from god, you know only vaguely of the holy spirit finding it's evidence existing for you as inspired words, someone else's words. The holy spirit would light on you a tongue of fire if you found anyone at all, including yourself, worthy of the gift.

Why, have you stolen mine?

And his sin was and is a lie.

Oh satan is telling the truth then?

 

Oh really? I just said that it's relative. Did you not listen? No... of course you didn't/ *Sigh*

You're getting the answers to what's personally loving to other people vs. fear-based hatred from someone else instead of finding them for yourself

You people always think you're fighting a big fuckin' war against a perceived evil, don't you? You remind me of conspiracy theorists sometimes, actually...

Why not? Because if I choose to worship a gigantic space fish, that's my choice and not yours. In fact, it's more legit than yours

 

No man, don't kill yourself because OldWaterBro and I don't agree with what you're saying. It'd be a sin for cryin' out loud :rofl:

Oh... if you're so wise, can you explain to me why, statistically, God has killed hundreds of thousands, millions of people even in the Bible, but Satan has killed...

... precisely zero?

 

I heard you. Do you mean sin is relative?

We share our thoughts. What exactly do you think I am stealing?

 

Well it would be aimless as I don't know what it is I said you disagree with.

You are keeping statistics.

 

You people??

please tell us what kind of "people" Anaximenes actually is.
I've been reading his/her posts for over 6 months now and still haven't found an appropriate pigeon hole yet.