Who sinned first? Man, Satan or God?

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by GreatestIam, Feb 26, 2014.

  1. GreatestIam

    GreatestIam Member

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    Then let your status as a liar stand. I don't care. I have proven my point.

    Regards
    DL
     
  2. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Whatever you want to believe, mate. Calling someone a liar to urge them to do something is just not the way.
     
  3. GreatestIam

    GreatestIam Member

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    You have nothing but garbage to offer. that is why you are mostly ignore by all.

    Regards
    DL
     
  4. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    LOL, in ALL your postings here you haven't proven a thing except that you have a very unhealthy obsession with this shit but not the education or intelligence to actually provide anything of substance.

    When your beliefs are directly challenged and refuted, you resort to kindergarten tactics as illustrated above.

    again, the only thing you have proven is that you are not right in the head.






    can I please get the Eleanor Roosevelt quote now?



    One thing that just stands out so fucking bright to me is that you want to condemn Christians for taking a fundamental, literal approach to the scriptural interpretation, yet your ENTIRE argument and premise rests on a complete and total LITERAL interpretation of the Bible.
    :rolleyes:

    when it comes to theological topics, you are the epitome of FAIL
     
  5. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    Let me see,
    asmodean---82 HF friends - outstanding rep
    Greatest-----0 HF friends (in 4 years) - no rep


    Yeah, it sure looks as though EVERYBODY here ignores poor ole' Asmo...
    :rolleyes:
     
  6. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    You are sure pressuring me now with insults to accommodate you. Damn, everybody must think I'm a liar now... I better change my approach and play the game (which I would if you could converse like a normal person).

    You see, greatest... I will pay you the respect of an in depth answer when you pay the people who are willing to participate in depth in your convo respect. Nothing special, just a normal amount of respect. Damn, talking about improving morality... seems you need us for that more than the opposite :biggrin:
     
  7. LornaDoom

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    It is absolutely Satan and damned himself for doing it..now and then he continues to bring others down with him..
     
  8. Moonglow181

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    All I know is that most people have a conscience.....I mean most, as there are serial killers and such and they seem void of conscience.....and there is a conscience for a reason, I think...Do we act on what our higher selves tell us or listen to our lower selves speaking?
     
  9. LornaDoom

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    we all do have a conscience, but a conscience can be scarred and without correct training can be almost useless
     
  10. Moonglow181

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    We always have a choice, is what I am saying.....
     
  11. LornaDoom

    LornaDoom Senior Member

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    always a choice..Free will is a great attribute depending on what it is used for, unfortunately, the human family has gone from bad to worse in their use of Free will
     
  12. Moonglow181

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    For the most part, I have to agree with your last statement, sadly.....

    Rather than evolving, there seems to be alot of de-evolving.....with the human species.
     
  13. tikoo

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    all that it creates is a weird scary comic book . the respectable gnostic literature
    is more than that . woo is acknowledged and the mind of discernment instructed
    to be respectful .

    one master of opposite is the philosopher whose words read just the same backwards
    and forwards and meaning shall not be confounded . another is a rough-handed artisan ...
    his name is Hammers on Stone .

    the inept will apply opposite of opposite of opposite . this distortion , then , is imposed
    as a reality of fearful madness . the inept can then sell fake stupid stuff to crazy people ,
    stuff like satanic artificial building stone . they can sell you a war .
     
  14. thedope

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    Nope,

    I am telling what I know regarding the nature of sin having already stated that the question who sinned first is meaningless in regards to understanding sin or in your terms where the guilt lies or with who.

    What biblical backing do you think I need that you do not see present?
    Specific question to you.

    No scripture ever talked to me or instructed me to do anything, regardless
    what do you think I have added?
    Specific question to you.


    I made no effort to quote the bible but to recount the story of the fall of man as I understand as it relates to the genesis of sin and these seventeen words, we hid because we saw we were naked and were ashamed and who told you you were naked, came to me in that effort. I added in parenthesis the words were afraid because it is an important deduction that does not alter the meaning but puts emphasis to a point about it that is consistent with what I am saying.

    Sin is the fearful thought.
     
  15. thedope

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    What this means, who knows. I didn't create satan.

    It is not at all strange as what you saying is complete gibberish.

    Limited power is a contradiction in terms and therefor "absolute" power is not a functional term.

    Since absolute power is not a functional term as it relates to power then it cannot be used as a causative integer in a postulate such as corrupted the absolute god

    Then he is not absolute as far as his choices go.

    If god cedes power to satan then he is not absolutely powerful.
     
  16. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    the (x)god Rome invented is to be defeated by the (x)gnostic' invented satan .
     
  17. thedope

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    Next tuesday?
     
  18. thedope

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    I should amend for accuracy this statement,
    If god cedes power to satan then he is without power.
     
  19. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    greatestIam is a warrior . we are old men sitting at the fire . god
    is with us , and we do not think to tell stories of god . when the
    smoke is diverted from our faces we breathe deeply and politely
    say thanks .
     
  20. thedope

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    More heckler I think. Guy has a tendency to run away from a fight. Whereas some would suggest well, he is a wise warrior to run when he has no ammunition, I suggest the heckler, the accuser, the tempter in the wilderness withdraws for a more opportune time when others around aren't so healthy and easier prey.
     
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