Who is your Favorite Communist???

Discussion in 'Protest' started by Red_Army, Jun 5, 2005.

  1. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

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    More on WEB Dubois

    "On the first day of October, 1961, I am applying for admission to membership in the Communist Party of the United States. I have been long and slow in coming to this conclusion, but at last my mind is settled.
    In college I heard the name Karl Marx, but read none of his works, nor heard them explained. At the University of Berlin, I heard much of those thinkers who had definitively answered the theories of Marx, but again, we did not study what Marx himself had said. Nevertheless, I attended the meetings of the Socialist Party and considered myself a Socialist.

    On my return to America, I taught and studied for sixteen years. I explored the theory of Socialism and studied the organized social life of American Negroes; but still I neither read or heard much of Marxism. Then I came to New York as a official of the new NAACP and editor of the Crisis Magazine. The NAACP was capitalist oriented and expected support from rich philanthropists.

    But it had a strong Socialist element in its leadership in persons like Mary Ovington, William English Walling and Charles Edward Russell. Following their advice, I joined the Socialist Party in 1911. I knew then nothing of practical socialist politics and in the campaign of 1912, I found myself unwilling to vote the Socialist ticket, but advised Negroes to vote for Wilson. This was contrary to Socialist Party rules and consequently I resigned from the Socialist Party.

    For the next twenty years I tried to develop a political way of life for myself and my people. I attacked the Democrats and Republicans for monopoly and disenfranchisement of Negroes; I attacked the Socialists for trying to segregate Southern Negro members; I praised the racial attitudes of the Communists, but opposed their tactics in the case of the Scottsboro boys and their advocacy of a Negro state. At the same time I began to study Karl Marx and the Communists; I read Das Kapital and other Communist literature; I hailed the Russian Revolution of 1917, but was puzzled at the contradictory news from Russia.

    Finally in 1926, I began a new effort; I visited Communist lands. I went to the Soviet Union in 1926, 1936, 1949, and 1959; I saw the nation develop. I visited East Germany, Czechoslovakia and Poland. I spent ten weeks in China, traveling all over the land. Then this summer, I rested a month in Romania.

    I was early convinced that Socialism was an excellent way of life, but I thought it might be reached by various methods. For Russia, I was convinced she had chosen the only path open to her at the time. I saw Scandinavia choosing a different method, half-way between Socialism and Capitalism. In the United States I saw Consumers Cooperation as a path from Capitalism to Socialism, while England, France, and Germany developed in the same direction in their own way. After the depression and the Second World War, I was disillusioned. The Progressive movement in the United States failed. The Cold War started. Capitalism called Communism a crime.

    Today I have reached a firm conclusion:

    Capitalism cannot reform itself; it is doomed to self-destruction. No universal selfishness can bring social good to all.

    Communism--the effort to give all men what they need and to ask of each the best they can contribute--it has and will make mistakes, but today it marches triumphantly on in education and science, in home and food, with increased freedom of thought and deliverance from dogma. In the end Communism will triumph. I want to help bring that day.

    The path of the American Communist Party is clear: It will provide the United States with a real Third Party and thus restore democracy to this land. It will call for:

    1. Public ownership of natural resources and of all capital.
    2. Public control of transportation and communications.
    3. Abolition of poverty and limitation of personal income.
    4. No exploitation of labor.
    5. Social medicine, with hospitalization and care of the old.
    6. Free education for all.
    7. Training for jobs and jobs for all.
    8. Discipline for growth and reform.
    9. Freedom under law.
    10. No dogmatic religion.


    These aims are not crimes. They are practiced increasingly over the world. No nation can call itself free which does not allow its citizens to work for these ends. "

    This was his first response and open declaration of his stance on Communism... it also provides some insight on how he arrived to the conclusion of calling himself a communist.
     
  2. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Reading communist rhetoric makes me so angry. Maybe because it sounds so ridiculous and naive.
     
  3. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Mui, I am sorry, but you need to wake up.

    You support MANDATORY state-sponsored indoctrination for all children, abolishing the idea of homeschooling or free-thought. This is fascism

    You support the abolition of religion. My opinion is that whether you agree with religion or not, it's a free country. How do commie scumbags stop the religious from practicing their religion? By killing them! This is fascism.

    You support the abolition of private property rights in favor of total government control. This is fascism.

    I don't undertand why you hate Bush, because to me it seems you crave government tyranny and control. You, like Bush, support a fascist ideology. You love tyranny and you don't even know it!

    STOP PLAYING INTO THE HANDS OF THE GLOBALISTS!! YOU ARE A PAWN!!! DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR SICK IDEOLOGIES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATH AND ENSLAVEMENT OF MILLIONS??
     
  4. CyberFly4

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    Pol Pot was the best by far. No comparisons.


    Just look at what he did to anybody who opposed him...

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  5. CyberFly4

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    Don't worry Mui.


    I got your back, comrad.
     
  6. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

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    Cyberfly, if you want to see some shocking revelations of precisely who supported Pol Pot and subsequently ensured Cambodia was forced into economic isolation when the Khmer Rouge was ousted, I suggest you get your hands on a copy of John Pilger's investigative documentary Cambodia: The Betrayal.

    It's from 1990 and chronicles consistent Western policy as pursued by successive administrations in both the US and UK (with a variety of backchannels successfully exposed). A real smoking gun against the head in the sanders that plague this site with their willfully sanctimonious hyper-nationalistic derision.
     
  7. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    [​IMG] My favorite Communists are Boris and Natasha.
     
  8. The Sad Knight

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    Hey man, the communism is something very bad!!!! Who normal person can like these people - Stalin etc? I was born in a communist country. I am an eyewitness!!! In democratic state you can talk about the government - try to do it in a communist state and you'll go to the jail! The communists can't rule the society, they prefere the dictatorship! They did kill without judje all their politival opponents in the time of the "Cold war"!
    Why don't you ask about our favourite sport - player, philosopherq misician or spiritual leader? This will be more reasonably!
     
  9. Psy Fox

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    In the USA you have the Mumia Abu-Jamal a political prisoner on death row, Assata Shakur is a political prisoner that escaped to Cuba yet the USA still wants her in prison for her political views. Most of the people in US prisons are there for political or racial reasons.

    The only difference is the USA is far better at propaganda so it can keep the people ingorant to the fact they live in a police state.
     
  10. The Sad Knight

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    I believe you, Psy Fox and I admit that I didn't have the information about this. I accept that maybe the United States are far from the real democracy and the real social rights. But this don't means that the communism is the good alternative of the current western capitalist society. I share my personal (and of my people) experience regarding with the communism. We also had propaganda and "programming of the brains" but I repeat: from Ontario or from US you can speak against the goverment and nobody will broke your fingers. So this is better than the communism in the Soviet Union and the Eastern Europe during the "Cold war". Believe me!
     
  11. newo

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    So, people who are in prison on drug charges, is that political, racial or both? Granted, some people believe everything they read in the mainstream media, but apparently you believe everything you read in Indymedia.
     
  12. Psy Fox

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    Political, there are a number of tribes that use psyechdelic drugs as part of their religion, taking such drugs is required to be pass into manhood, alot of these drugs make LSD look weak. They are oppressing freedom of religion by not allowing people to use drugs for religious purposes, and they are oppressing peoples right to freedom and happiness by locking people that are no threat to society.
     
  13. Psy Fox

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    Yes you can speak aginst the goverment, but organize to fight the system and you'll up dead like Fred Hampton that on December 4, 1969 was murdered in his sleep by police for the crime of organizing the black community. Even in FBI documents, the FBI was at war with the Black Panther Party for "infiltrating" the black ghetto and winning the hearts and minds of blacks through charity, thus the FBI shot them up for helping their fellow blacks.
     
  14. deadhead123654

    deadhead123654 Banned

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    first off, i would have to say communism is a dictatorship, there is no arguing it. As imperfect as our political system is, the guy above me was right, we wont ghet our fingers broken for speaking out.

    second off, who in the world said stalin was their favorite. I hope they were joking. Stalin was almost as evil as Hitler. If you want to talk bout politcal prisoners, they Stalin is ur man.

    third off, y isnt che guevera listed as a favorite commie. He would be my personal favorite, he seemed like the one who actually did it for the peoples benifit, not his own
     
  15. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Talk about evading the issue! So crack dealers are trying exercise freedom of religion, huh? Or perhaps you're saying that the crack and meth epidemics are being blown out of proportion by our propoganda? I think your reality check has bounced.
     
  16. Psy Fox

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    No, but face it if it was part of the Christian religion then christen drugs would not only be legal but easily accessible.
     
  17. Communism

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    My favorite communist is Ernesto Rafael Guevara de la Serna/Ernesto Guevara/ Che Guevara/Che. I think he is an example of the most complete human being (and communist) of all times.

    I also very much like his fellow-guerillas in Cuba, Congo and Bolivia.




    Second, Fidel Castro.

    Third, Mao.
     
  18. jackstrafromwitchita

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    your hurt man, communism could work but it neaver will
     
  19. JanaXGIRL

    JanaXGIRL Senior Member

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    My favorite communist is ...

    DEAD COMMUNIST!!!

    Ok, I know this post's gonna make a discussion, so come on :D
     
  20. JoneeEarthquake

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    Is this guy for real? I respect everyones beliefs, but come on, he killed 20 million and thats ok becuase its maintaining communism?
     

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