Who else is opiated right now??

NorCaliGreenFiend · Jan 18, 2009

Ive eaten five of my 7.5 vicodins so far today, and I plan on eating all nine. Got 20 for a minor tooth surgery, and then I got a refill for twelve for the weekend. My teeth dont even hurt that bad, Ive just been getting hella high all week.

Euphorial · Jan 18, 2009

haha I love that word "hella". It's interesting how everyone I meet from NorCal actually does say that.

Iseemusic yea it's fine. It was just funny imagining somebody taking 650mg of hydrocodone. Hey when I had no tolerance 18mg of oxy definitely worked well for me.

The problem now is that now I have like a mental tolerance, meaning my expectations are so much higher after doing 60mg of oxy all at once. Now without a tolerance I want at least a 30mg line of oxy to feel good.

I should be getting some stuff on Monday, and then I can actually contribute to this thread correctly.

TooCrisp · Jan 18, 2009

mmm alright heres my question.... whats better than on a cold sunday in middle of winter....chillin inside, watching NFL playoffs on the couch with warm blanket, basically unlimited oxy and food? life is good

Feelings Of U4ia · Jan 18, 2009

^Nothing besides the football part, doesn't really work for me. Much rather would have a video game.

jo_k_er_man · Jan 18, 2009

NorCaliGreenFiend said:

Ive eaten five of my 7.5 vicodins so far today, and I plan on eating all nine. Got 20 for a minor tooth surgery, and then I got a refill for twelve for the weekend. My teeth dont even hurt that bad, Ive just been getting hella high all week.
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please tell me you CWE'd that.. otherwise your liver is gonna hate you

NorCaliGreenFiend · Jan 18, 2009

ya I thought about that and I only took seven of them, but still, its pretty toxic. would 24 grams of APAP over the course of six days cause any real, lasting damage? Its a lot of acetaminophen, Ive had this persistent cough since I started taking vicodin, Im starting to think its related.

Oh, and how many kids from the bay ( nor cal, etc) does it take to change a light bulb?

Hella.

jdavis1989 · Jan 18, 2009

After a tough Eagles loss tonight, got that oc 80 buzz on. Feelin a little bit better.

blitz7341 · Jan 18, 2009

bump. 15mg hydrocodone

Feelings Of U4ia · Jan 18, 2009

NorCaliGreenFiend said:

ya I thought about that and I only took seven of them, but still, its pretty toxic. would 24 grams of APAP over the course of six days cause any real, lasting damage? Its a lot of acetaminophen, Ive had this persistent cough since I started taking vicodin, Im starting to think its related.

Oh, and how many kids from the bay ( nor cal, etc) does it take to change a light bulb?

Hella.
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4grams per day is really the max anyone should ever exceed in 24 hours. So you are RIGHT at the max suggested. Many people take more then that, and it's prescribed by their doctor. It's really relatively safe to take up to 6 grams a day in my opinion, but it certainly isn't something you should do if you can prevent it, which you can, by doing a CWE.

6 days of 4 grams a day isn't going to cause lasting damage, but a couple years of that, and you will end up in the hospital, mark my words.

As far as the question...

It takes 5. 1 to change the lightbulb, and 4 to ghost ride the whip ghost ride the whip.

HAHAHA

jo_k_er_man · Jan 19, 2009

Acetaminophen is extremely toxic to adults in single large doses of about 7000 mg (or 150 mg per kilogram of body weight). This large amount in one setting, however, is relatively rare. Instead, most cases of acetaminophen poisoning occur because people take smaller doses over a long period of time. In this setting, doses of 4000 mg daily can be toxic. In children, daily maximum oral dosing is not to exceed 90 mg per kilogram of body weight (O’Malley P 2005).
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jo_k_er_man · Jan 19, 2009

just thought i'd also post this lil tid bit of info as well...

Nutritional and Supplemental Protection

People who take acetaminophen and OTC NSAIDs regularly should be aware that these drugs can cause liver and kidney toxicity. When you are taking these drugs, it is a good idea to provide antioxidant support to the liver and kidneys to protect them from the oxidant by-products caused by their metabolism.
Supplements that can be consumed in conjunction with acetaminophen include antioxidants such as selenium, vitamins E and C, alpha-lipoic acid, and nutrients such as S-adenosyl-L-methionine and NAC, which increase levels of glutathione. In addition, milk thistle extract has been shown to protect the liver and is widely used for degenerative liver diseases such as cirrhosis, which, like acetaminophen overdose, is associated with decreased levels of liver antioxidants.
NAC. NAC, an amino acid derivative, is part of the body’s natural antioxidant system. It is the established conventional treatment for acetaminophen overdose because it can protect glutathione supplies in the case of a toxic acetaminophen event. When converted to cysteine, NAC is the key precursor to biosynthesis of glutathione (Faintuch J et al 1999).
Vitamin E. Like the other antioxidants, vitamin E (tocopherol) becomes deficient due to lack of glutathione or vitamin C (Marcus R et al 2001). Infusions of vitamin E become necessary when glutathione levels drop (Faintuch J et al 1999). To treat acetaminophen toxicity, pretreatment with vitamin E (30 mg/kg) combined with melatonin (10 mg/kg) was just as effective at fighting free radicals and reducing oxidative damage to the liver as NAC (150 mg/kg) (Sener G et al 2003). Vitamin E, along with vitamin C, also helps prevent NSAID-induced gastric injury by counteracting lipid peroxidation in the gastrointestinal tract.
Vitamin C. Like vitamin E, vitamin C becomes deficient once glutathione levels are reduced. Infusions of vitamin C are also necessary to combat lowered glutathione levels occurring from toxic substances that affect liver function, such as acetaminophen (Faintuch J et al 1999).
Vitamin C also induces a protective stomach enzyme (heme-oxygenase-1, or HO-1) that declines after toxic exposure to NSAIDs. HO-1, a vasodilating agent with anti-inflammatory and antioxidant effects, counteracts poor circulation and NSAID-induced gastric injury associated with release of free radicals (Becker JC et al 2004).
Polyenylphosphatidylcholine (PPC). PPC is a soy extract and has been shown to protect the liver against toxicity from acetaminophen. PPC also offers a powerful protective effect to the mucosa, or stomach lining. NSAIDs are known to decrease the protective mucosa, which makes the stomach lining vulnerable to injury and ulceration (Anand BS et al 1999). PPC has been shown to improve the gastric tolerance of ibuprofen by protecting the stomach wall (Leyck S et al 1985).
Whey. Whey, a serum protein representing 20 percent of milk, has a high concentration of the amino acid cysteine, enabling it to act as a potent antioxidant in the liver and a key rate-limiting precursor to glutathione levels.
Milk thistle. Silybum marianum, commonly known as milk thistle, has been a treatment for liver diseases for more than 2000 years (Flora K et al 1998). As an antioxidant, silymarin (milk thistle’s active constituents) reduces free radical production and lipid peroxidation in the liver and slows glutathione depletion (Basaga H et al 1997). In laboratory rats, silymarin significantly reduced hepatic necrosis caused by toxic doses of acetaminophen and protected liver cell membranes exposed to an array of hepatotoxins (Muriel P et al 1992; Davila JC et al 1989; Shear NH et al 1995).
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Feelings Of U4ia · Jan 19, 2009

Nice info, thanks for posting that.

jo_k_er_man · Jan 19, 2009

Eyes that look like heaven, lips like sherry wine
That girl can sure enough make my little light shine
I get a funny feelin' up and down my spine
'Cause I know that my Opana's mine

So I'm singin'
Opana, Opana
My heart's on fire Opana
Giddy Up Oom Poppa Omm Poppa Mow Mow
Giddy Up Oom Poppa Omm Poppa Mow Mow
Heigh-ho Silver, away

Tonight I'm gonna meet her at the Hungry House Cafe
And I'm gonna give her all the love I can
She's gonna jump and holler 'cause I saved up my last two dollars
We're gonna search and find that preacher man

Now I'm a singin'
Opana, Opana
My heart's on fire Opana
Giddy Up Oom Poppa Omm Poppa Mow Mow
Giddy Up Oom Poppa Omm Poppa Mow Mow
Heigh-ho Silver, away

does2 · Jan 19, 2009

L O L

jo_k_er_man · Jan 19, 2009

PS: i think that info i posted should be stickied.. its very useful and this thread is gonna get lost sooner or later

does2 · Jan 19, 2009

Sticky'd.

jo_k_er_man · Jan 19, 2009

does2 said:

Sticky'd.
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? just cuz you came on your computer screen doesnt mean its stickied

Euphorial · Jan 19, 2009

haha

that is extremely useful, thanks for finding that Joker

jo_k_er_man · Jan 21, 2009

ah.. the warmth that is oxymorphone.. i cut this time in half.. kinda over did it for my first time last time.. lets see how i do with a lesser dose

does2 · Jan 21, 2009

jo_k_er_man said:

? just cuz you came on your computer screen doesnt mean its stickied
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That may be, but my keyboard and moniter..... Sticky'd.

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