which is more of an abomination?

Yeah, Mary...I was wondering that, too.

I respect animals. I won't kill one if I can help it. I won't abuse one. I do eat meat every once in a while, but I try to keep it to a minimum. But I just don't think people should keep animals. I'm not into the whole domestication and breeding thing. I don't think we have a right to that. If we want to leave our natural world and create this abominable civilization, ok. But why drag other creatures into it, too?

And then, to manipulate their reproduction to suit our preferences for their species? That's just sick!

I say, let them go about their business.

 

Yeah it does, people who don't like animals can get fucked.

 

double post

 

It just came out that the real unemployment rate in California is over 20%.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/b...=1&scp=1&sq=unemployment July 15, 2009&st=cse

That's 1 in 5 people. By comparison, the average unemployment rate during the Great Depression was 25% or 1 in 4 people.

The primadonas are going to have a harder time finding trophy dates who pay for their drinks night after night. Lots of beautiful women out there!

The competition for suckers will be stiff! :cheers2: