i've been a nanny (which i stated earlier) and have worked with kids of all ages, in many different ways. AND, it is my personal opinion that a degree in a lot of theoretical bullshit has very little to give to real life circumstances. life isn't about diagnosing what's WRONG with people, even kids. it's about seeing what's right, and being glad about that and emphasizing it. i'm sorry if that offends you, but that's just my personal opinion. i'm very glad that your degree and getting paid to tell people to spank their kids makes you happy. have fun standing on your one leg, while i'm out running around with a bunch of really fun, well adjusted kids on my two legs.
A lot of the classes I had to take were bull shit and I assume a lot of courses for my master's will be as well, but I am soooo honored to have had the opportunity and ability to graduate college of go on to grad school next year. It has really allowed me to have the job of my dreams, being a guest speaker at conferences, traveling the country as a national trainer for spec ed programs and man I have learned a lot. I would never advise any of my clients to spank their children. It would be unethical as I train them because they have a lack of control or patience in the first place or have just been reunited with their kids, or are foster parents. However, after having numerous discussions with my calm and nurturing husband on the issue we have decided that if talkign things out, doing role playing, play therapy, sensory integration etc doesn't work with our kids or they do something dangerous like run out int he road or play with fire at a young age that him spanking them would be perfectly appropriate.
I went back and read the entire thread and realize why you are completley against it. I am sorry for any pain you have dealt with in your life and think a great deal of people who survive such circumstances, and further more go on to make a difference in the life of kids. Also, iw ant to make it clear, i don't think everyone needs a degree. I apologize if I came across that way. I can be very defensive at times.
I grew up in a home where spankings were common place! Right or wrong, who cares. I needed guidance and that was the only way they knew how to give guidance. Though I will admit it never worked as intended! Samething was common place when I went to a foster home, difference was in tool used. The effect was the same, making it waste of time. One evening I got into a spat with a foster brother and threw and stainless steel pot at him. Luckily he ducked, but pot bounced around and went through a sheetrock wall and took out light switch box and all. Well, the next morning foster dad found hole in wall and lost his cool, when I walked into dining room I got my education, he was a ex college boxer and a ex sparing partner for a pro boxer. He lit into me like no tomorrow and for 3 yrs I could feel pain whenever I would try to run, I was so stubburn, I wouldn't pay any attention to the normal punishments that were given, but I did understand and pay close attention to the fist!
it's not my favorite thing in the world. i hate it. but every now and then, yeah, i gotta swat the bottom. it's just the end of the freaking line. time outs. pfft. whaddya do when they won't stay? taking their toys away? they don't care enough about their toys to give a shit. they'll just go tear something up for sheer vengeance. restraining? yeah, i've had to do that a few times, i think that terrifies her more than anything. i hate being restrained, too. bleak terror for me. reasoning/talking? my baby is 2, she doesn't have any language skills. ignoring her? yeah, whatever. she's like an air raid siren and a helicopter set loose in the house. but one little swat on the diapered bottom, man, that surprises her. hell, she gets harder swats when we're playing "shake your booty at mommy" and she loves that.