When exactly did rock n' roll die?

Discussion in 'Rock 'n' Roll' started by Fluffernutter, Aug 2, 2006.

  1. Wuji

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    "Rock" bands today sound like clinical, inoffensive pop bands to me. They need to sound bigger and dirtier. More like AC/DC. And much less of this strumming one chord over and over in order to sound emotional. More positivity and energy.
     
  2. offset

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    They're TOPS :):)
     
  3. Asmodean

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    I saw Radio Moscow live last week, old fashioned power trio with nothing clinical and certainly no lack of energy. Recommend them for sure to go see live if they're in your town :cool:
     
  4. offset

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    Hel yeah!!!:)
     
  5. Asmodean

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    Why does every rock band has to sound like that? Let other people enjoy the clinical ones if they dig that stuff. As long as there are groovy bands you can just ignore all the kinds of rock that's uninteresting for you.
     
  6. Shaw-Min

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    Hip hop killed rock. And with righteous reason.
     
  7. Asmodean

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    Hip hop mostly kills itself :D
     
  8. Shaw-Min

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    Explain.
     
  9. Asmodean

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    No other genre can be blamed for the demise of a particular kind of music. If it's good it lives on next to newer kinds of music, if it does not it's to blame on a completely different kind of music? Retarded. When a music genre evolves and grows there will always be divides and subgenres and in the end the original appreciators might loose interest and even respect for what 'their kind of music' has become. I see this with rock, metal and also hip hop (underground/poppy, sellout etc.). A music genre is mainly altered from within and when it dies out it is also mainly caused by itself.
     
  10. Asmodean

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    Could you then perhaps explain this post for me? :D
     
  11. Shaw-Min

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    No, I was just trying to be contentious. But then again, hip hop has taken over the mainstream and been an outlet for an incredibly greater degree of creative output than rock and roll ever has. It's the mutilated slang of hip hop that rich suburban kids use now. Rock verses have been as driven and meaningful as hip hop verses.

    I guess that's what I meant.
     
  12. Asmodean

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    I don't see why you think that, unless you're perhaps just looking at rock 'n roll in it's smallest sense instead of rock as a whole?
     
  13. Molly's Alarm Clock

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    Rock n' roll isn't dead, people's belief in it is... Rock n roll is somewhere. You just have to believe.
     
  14. zombiewolf

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    Why then, if hip-hop is so creative do they continue to rip-off rock but still diss rock music and at the same time act like they're orig when the truth is they are the musically bereft ones.

    here's the latest example of how creative these robbin', cheatin' and stealin' hip-hop fucks really are...

    http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.5590/title.lupe-fiasco-weighs-in-on-50-cent-vs-kanye

    "...Another project destined for critical acclaim is Child Rebel Soldiers (CRS), a group comprised of Lupe, Kanye West and Pharrell. He says the album won’t have any typical R&B or soul samples, but will sample the work of rock stars like Pink Floyd, Radiohead and similar artists."


    Don't bury rock yet, they're still picking at the corpse...;)
     
  15. guerillabedlam

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  16. OptimisticFutureBlues

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    Rock n Rolls death is a tragedy. Even after its been out of the public eye for so long, new age bands and solo artists alike, continue to stomp it into the quick sand that is Americas hunger for new popular sounds. There is a light though, some bands are releasing material that is new, but at the same time "flavored" with elements of classic rock n roll. Reviving it in a small way that is enough to spark someones interest towards the past, but new enough to appeal to young listeners. It will never be revived to popularity again though, just another piece of time to be looked at by the envious eyes of the few current American youth who realize what they missed, at no fault of their own.

    Fogeyism = <3
     
  17. Asmodean

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    You shouldn't limit rock to America, most groovy and psychedelic rock comes from countries as Sweden at the moment. And as for the idea that it never will be revived to the mass popularity in the 50/60's/70's, I don't agree at all. Today's rockscene overall is as huge, but we (majority in this thread) does not like the majority of today's rock. Which should be no problem if you could focus on the good rock. Unfortunately this is why 'real'/good/old fashioned rock seems dead to people like you: it's not in the mainstream channels, you have to do a little effort in searching. It's far from dead though.

    Also, I agree that quite a few newer bands try too hard to sound new and popular indeed, and I think it sounds crappy pretty often. But other people seem to think otherwise and that should not be a problem at all. Tastes just differ. Anyway, I know it's kind of hard to ignore the bad stuff when that's the only rock that reach your ears. If you miss the groovy stuff because of that is that the media's fault, or the evilish music industry? No, it IS the fault of the people who crave but does not look.
     
  18. OptimisticFutureBlues

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    The reason I kept it to America is because thats all that matters in America, and its where I live. American people are ignorant and only want whats new, flashy and on Mtv hits. Rap music is slowly digesting American suburbs and lower class areas. I've searched and searched and to my surprise there are quite a few new age bands doing it with a classic flavor. Its just when the new age sound is being gorged all around you, its hard to stop and realize that there is good stuff out there still, waiting to be heard. Its also hard to realize that music of new styles is being created and still appeals to elder listeners or listeners of elder tastes.

    I'm guilty of the ignorance no less, I ignore new music because of the simplistic attitude "it all sucks", and I don't care. Mainly because so much of what I've seen of new music is the opposite of what I'm feeling. What I do know, is that every time I hear new rap music, or new "rock" music the word "Fake" comes to my mind. Listening to the average new single means a forced smile and a deep feeling of sin. That almost instinctual feeling that says I'm listening to the wrong side.
     
  19. guerillabedlam

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    Rap and Edm (techno) have swallowed a significant portion of the audience that rock held for so long. Even closer to rock, various forms of metal seem to have become increasingly popular. I don't think rock will ever sit atop of that thrown it once held. Some of this has to do with the fact the guitar does not captivate the youth today, many would rather hear and learn turntables or mess around on ableton or reason and create music that way.
     
  20. Asmodean

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    Yeah, it's true music has become even more diverse. I love it. We don't have to dig all the new stuff but I myself indulge with as much pleasure in some of the digital music of the last two decades as in psychedelic, blues or hard rock. It's no problem to be more selective, unless you can't get into new stuff at all. Anyway, it all exist next to rock. It's a fact indeed that the rock that is most rooted in the classic rock stuff has a smaller audience, but it does not at all indicate that it's dying.
     

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