What's your favorite moment in history

the day the northern piutes won the battle of wadsworth.

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Love it - and of course she remembers you!

My favorite would be when Boudicca (or Boadicea), queen of the Iceni, kicked some Roman ass and took back her dignity!

 

For a detailed description of the mass murder and mass rape committed by the Soviet Army on the German people in 1945, see John Toland's book, "The Last 100 Days", Random House, New York, 1965, 631 pages. Of course, the Russian and related Soviet people were forced to fight to victory against German Fascism, or live as slaves. This does not forgive the atrocities they committed in achieving victory, which rival the atrocities committed by the Americans in defeating Japan.

Also, the consequences of imposing Stalinism on Eastern Europe for the following 44 years are well known.

 

If Cortes meeting Moctezuma gives you good feelings, you must be ecstatic about the Manson girls meeting Sharon Tate.

The history of Spain in the Americas is a history of murder and enslavement, from Columbus right up to the time of the Bolivar revolutions of the early nineteenth century. Ask an Arawak Indian, if there are any left.

 

My second-most favorite moment in history (see above for my favorite) has to be the Big Bang, which occurred over a period of 10 to the minus 43 seconds or less, depending on which account you want to use. Of course the Big Bang did not end at any particular time. I also realize that strictly speaking this event, the creation of Creation, is not a historical event in the strict sense, but is only inferred from current physical data, observations and theories.

 

9/11

 

Dog..

Well said

Occam

 

Dog..

And is not likely to be the 1st such event.
OVERANDOVERANDOVERANDOVER

Why do humans insist that ''they' are so important.?
That 'they' are the first?...ego crap.

Reality has ALWAYS EXISTED. [Creationism is rubbish,, and we all know it.]
It has no begining or end . EVER. and we a just a candle flame.
There are 2 absolutes. No more. no less.
Reality, and it's processing....change


Occam

 

My grandfather was awarded the most heroic man in his branch of the navy. I love learning about WW II for that reason.

Also, it was a terrible time, but I love learning about the holocaust. Not because of what happened during, but how it ended and everyone put the pieces back together.

 

Occam, when you use the term 'always existed', you are assuming the existence of time. The Big Bang is the creation of both space and time. Now when you say "It has no begining [sic]...", let's just say that you're saying so doesn't make it true.
When you say 'always', I believe you are referring to the set of all possible moments in time. Suppose there is a one to one correspondence between the set of all positive real numbers and the set of moments in time. The value zero is outside this set, and is in fact the greatest lower bound to the set. However, given any moment, there is a still earlier moment, greater than the zero value.
As for the 'over and over and over' bit, which Nietzsche liked, I don't see any current scientists supporting that argument. Maybe you can quote a reputable source?

 

Let me get this straight. You're saying that the premeditated murder of 2900 innocent civilians (excluding the Pentagon victims) who were burned alive or crushed to death is your favorite moment in history?

 

Dog..

Who told u that lie? There IS no zero.

Like all transient beings. You cannot accept a thing without bounderies.
Reality has no beginning.
Or end.
Science cannot declaim such.
It knows very little on this issue.
It has NO IDEA, what existed before the bang.
So my ideas are as valid as theirs'
Occam says. reality has always existed. This removes so many questions.
Occams razor really works. If it does not fit in your head. that is a problem with your head. ...not reality.

Occam

 

Dog

No. Im saying that the 9/11 event was the turnover from the
USSR being the 'bad guy' to osama being the bad guy
[even though he did nothing]
And that event was planed by the west. 'premeditated'
Read some history. No terrorists have EVER done such an event
It was organised within and without. And PS, the pentagon was hit by a missle. not a plane.

The US killed 50 thousand women and children in dresden feb '45. to show the ussr the power of the us airforce.
Don't EVER speak to me about the lilly white credentials of the west.
I will drown you in horror.

wake up

Occam

 

Thanks, Occam, I am already awake.

I am well aware of the various atrocities committed by the United States and its allies in World War II and in Vietnam. I refused military service in the United States in 1971 and fled to Canada rather than do five years in jail. In fact I did three weeks in jail in pre-trial custody.

As to the 9/11 attacks being planned by the west, and the Pentagon being hit by a missile, not a plane, please state your sources. I think it's not too likely that all the media would mistake a missile for a plane. The history on that point is beyond dispute.

You had best take your own advice and read history, rather than make things up at the keyboard.

 

Dog

The media??? HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAAAAAA
would not know the tuth ..or care. it wants nothing but RATINGS

Flying horizontal...? at 500kmh +
no wrekage at impact point.
14 foot impact hole...?
Lump of steel pops out in courtyard. [thus it had to be flying horizontal.
or wrekage could not appear in central courtyard....duh. do the math]

sounds like a SRAM or a TLAM [goggle it if you dont know what a sram or tlam is.. and i think you dont.]

i dont make things up at keyboard.
You say you know what US and west has done... I think you dont know 98% of it.

Occam

 

A plane flying horizontal? That is so crazy! Who'd believe that?

 

No wreckage at impact point? State your sources!

 

dog

Show me photo of said wreckage...?
I deny event.. it's up to you to prove event.
Basic science, show data..i try to disprove....show me some data
Surely photos must exist. Of such a profound event.
If you cannot. ergo. then wreckage never existed.
No plane fuselage or wings lying around?
funny that.

occam

 

I trust the media to report matters such as the 11 September 2001 attack on the Pentagon accurately. Now don't take it personally Occam, but I'm not sufficiently interested in convincing you of the facts to research the subject on your behalf.

The link http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911_pentagon_eyewitnesses.html
has videos of the event as well as various eyewitness accounts. I haven't downloaded the videos because I have a low speed, dial-up modem which ties up my machine for long periods whenever I download a video.

Also, just because Flight 77's turbines didn't show up on the photographs taken from a distance doesn't mean they weren't found. And, if Flight 77 didn't crash into the Pentagon, just where did it touch down? What happened to its passengers and crew? Maybe you're going to tell me a UFO landed and took them away?

 

Dog

You trust the media.????...Accept their total lack of evidence but for the government line, which provides no evidence....LOLOOLOLLOL

No more need be said. poor sad fellow. No 'plane' hit the pentagon....
Ever.

Occam