what's wrong with using abortion as a form of birth control

Well, they do have the same goal. IMO, the proper role of abortion is as a second line of defence.

My friend and her husband are responsible, smart people. They have practiced birth control successfully for many years, but nothing is 100%, you know. The girl in the stereotypical story is the moron who forgets to use condoms, but it can happen to anybody.

Absolutely, it is. All the more reason not to have kids when you aren't prepared to do the job well. The world already has far too many bad parents in it. I'm glad you're not one of them. :cheers2:

 

I'll get back to you...

You cant take anything like that light hearted. Its impossible no matter how much you dont want the baby. when I got mine, damn it took a toll on me because I did want it and i did want to put it up for adoption or even keep it. Yes granted I had no money but something triggers you to go out there and start making money and providing for it. I wanted it because I knew the father (thought i did) and I knew he was gonna be a good dad
but anyways back to karen

Based on what? based on a mistake, get the abortion and dont do it again. People SHOULD learn their lesson on how to prevent pregnancy the first time or second. and I didnt say abortion was that bad. i said multiple abortions are bad. Got pregnant again? you're shit outta luck, have it or put it up for adoption. Okay we got tons and tons of procedures and medicine to prevent it.

No one can force you to keep a baby, they have hospitals, police stations, fire stations you can drop the baby off on.

Believe me, the hell i went through getting that done, i WISH I could take it all back and have the baby and put it up with a nice family, so i could have SOME emotional comfort in my life

I just couldnt take getting another abortion and i hope most women feel the same way

 

sounds a lot more painful, invasive, and expensive than a condom or a pill.

if an acorn's not a tree, why is it a tree...when a pregnant woman get's killed and the fetus dies too?

personally, i'm not sure on my moral stance on abortion. i'd imagine it'd have a lot to do with the functionality of the human brain at certain periods of time or whatnot...but i sure am glad it's legal though. i like knowing i have an "out" if a mistake ever happens.

 

For the first time more people are pro-life than pro-choice in the U.S. They think it might be because of the new imaging equipment where you can see all the details of the baby/fetus. Just thought that was interesting.

 

I am pro choice . The reason why you should not have mulitple abortions has nothing to d owith killing of the fetus or anything . Yes that is important to the person (usually not the one that is pregnant ) that we reserve the rights of the unborn fetus , but all of that aside. An abortion is the scraping of the uterus lining. One or two scrapings will not cause much damage . If you are a young woman , repetitive scrapings will make the lining too thin to be able to carry a child in the event that , later in life you may want to get married and conceive. I had a relative that had repetitive abortions , as a result of this she was bedridden for both of her pregnancies that she did want with her current husband. Using abortions as a form of birth control is never healthy choice. You should never have surgery unless it is absolutely necessary.

 

Abortions sound bad when when they are labeled "murder," but I think its unfair to use the word in this context.

As for the popular debate as to whether the child is alive or not before or after certain points, well, this is silly. The egg and sperm are living cells even before fertilization. The child is alive from the moment of conception though it may not resemble a human.

A more meaningful question is whether the child is conscious at this or that point in the pregnancy. If the child has no consciousness with which to experience the "murder" then what is the problem?

And I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that the mind does not record any kind of concrete memories even for a few months after birth. That's not to say the mind gathers nothing in this time - it does "learn" but not in any consciously tangible way. And it seems to me that if you have no memory then you can't remember what was happening a second ago. And it would seem that experiencing anything consciously requires that the sensations be stored in short term memory then interpreted by a consciousness. If there is no place to store the memories then there are no experiences to interpret and therefore essentially no consciousness. In other words, a fetus isn't going to know or care that its being aborted. If you know a lot about psychology feel free to pick apart my reasoning - I've made a few assumptions here that seem logical enough to me.

This all takes a back seat to the more important question, however; would you want to be born to parents who didn't want you but were forced to have you just because they couldn't get an abortion?

 

i think it's actually 3 years before you retain memories. at least those are the earliest memories you're supposed to have. i swear i remember some stuff from when i was 2 1/2 though.

 

??? What the hell are you talking about?

 

I think that if a woman chooses to have an abortion, she should have to look at her baby via ultrasound, THEN make the decision.
Regardless, using abortion as a form of birth control is completely unacceptable! If you're too irresponsible to use a condom, pill, foam, etc. while having sex, you shouldn't be having it anyway. And, if you were never given the memo on how babies were made, you shouldn't be having sex. You know how babies are made, don't be lazy if you don't want one.

 

if you're using a condom and or birth control and you still get pregnant or you get like... raped you know abortion is fine right but you shouldn't just go out and have sex with no other contraceptive and then get abortions like it's a fad

 

Using abortion as a form of birth control when the others like condoms or pills fails is fine, but to be using abortion as the first line of contraceptive that's pretty fucked up

 

I think abortion is only wrong if you believe God creates human beings. If not than who gives a shit who gets abortions. Abortions can be a good thing. Most women who would get up to three abortions are most likely the same women who would smoke, drink, and get high while pregnant. They'd also make horrible fucking mothers

 

yeah but if you use abortion as your only form of birth control.. i mean like you don't use condoms, you don't use pills, you don't use shots, whatever... like if you're just doin it and doing it then you get abortions and then keep doing it get another abortion do it get another abortion do it get another abortion

i mean shit haha

 

yea. Thats fucked up. Who started this thread and why? Do they get abortions often or what?

 

Just a debate

 

I think that unless you were raped, abortions shouldnt even be an option for you. Or maybe you can get one abortion as long as you agree to have yourself sterilized once it is done.

 

raped or had health/drug problems or seriously cannot financialy afford the child

 

Oh yeah. Forgot about the bad health/Drug problem part. Yeah they should be sterilized too. Unless they can quit the drugs and get their health up. As for the financial part I think adoption is appropiate.

 

hm, it's easy to say adoption is fine when you don't have to carry the baby for 9months, give birth to a baby, then give it away

 

hm yeah you could but some adoptions arnt always the best to kids you know and the last thing you want is your kid at 18 knocking at your door